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Most overrated & underrated college coaches (rated by peers)

I’ve heard a lot of “I don’t like Saban but think he’s a great coach.” I don’t follow CFB outside of the Buffs as closely as many of you, so I’d like to know why people dislike Saban. Just genuinely curious what he’s done that you dislike.
 
Buffnik said:
Yeah. It's no accident that 3 of the top vote getters for underrated are Pac-12 coaches.
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Between the undervalued reputations and underfunded network money, it kinda makes the P12 seem like a steppingstone to serve the staffing needs of the big boy conferences.

P12 really needs an 8 game conference schedule and a whole bunch more games against the SEC and B1G opponents.
 
Medford M. said:
I'm saying it doesn't take a great coach to win with what he's given.

Chris Peterson coaches circles around Saban, and unlike Saban seems like an actual human being.
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I can’t attest who does the coaching circles. All I know is that when their two teams played last, Saban’s team was a two TD favorite and covered. In a college football playoff game.

Saban probably isn’t human (would make more sense). That doesn’t change the fact that he has created a juggernaut for dominance in NCAAF, a sick pipeline for players to have careers in the NFL, and now, a rehab clinic for bonehead coaches.
 
Clean Undies said:
Between the undervalued reputations and underfunded network money, it kinda makes the P12 seem like a steppingstone to serve the staffing needs of the big boy conferences.

P12 really needs an 8 game conference schedule and a whole bunch more games against the SEC and B1G opponents.
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That would require the SEC schools actually being willing to travel outside of their foot print. It’s ridiculous that a “neutral site” game for Auburn/UW is in Atlanta.

Until each of the conferences align under one governing body, play by the same rules, and have equal $$ distribution amounts, those other conferences will always have the advantages.
 
There are several Pac-12/SEC series coming down the road:

CU/Texas A&M
Cal/Auburn
Oregon/Auburn (Arlington, TX)
Stanford/Vanderbilt
Arizona/Miss St.
Arizona State/Miss St.
Arizona State/Texas A&M
Arizona State/LSU
UCLA/LSU
UCLA/Auburn
USC/Alabama (Arlington, TX)
 
Question, just out of curiosity. For you guys and gals that did compete in sports, doesn't matter what sport, what coaching type got the most out of you? For me, it was definitely somebody that would try to piss me off.
 
manhattanbuf said:
I can’t attest who does the coaching circles. All I know is that when their two teams played last, Saban’s team was a two TD favorite and covered. In a college football playoff game.

Saban probably isn’t human (would make more sense). That doesn’t change the fact that he has created a juggernaut for dominance in NCAAF, a sick pipeline for players to have careers in the NFL, and now, a rehab clinic for bonehead coaches.
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Every program that recruits at that high a level has this.
 
Medford M. said:
Every program that recruits at that high a level has this.
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Absolutely not true. Has anyone ever recruited like this? Maybe USC in the mid 2000’s, but if you’re merely talking blue bloods. Texas 2011-now.
 
Duff Man said:
There are several Pac-12/SEC series coming down the road:
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Oregon/Auburn (Arlington, TX) ‘19
Cal/Auburn: ‘19-‘20 home-home
CU/Texas A&M: ‘20-‘21 home-home
USC/Alabama (Arlington, TX) ‘16, ‘20 (2 neutral)
UCLA/LSU: ‘21, ‘24 home-home
Stanford/Vanderbilt ‘21, ‘24-‘25, ‘27 2 home-2 home
Arizona/Miss St. ‘22-‘23 home-home
Arizona State/Miss St. ‘24-‘25 home-home
Arizona State/Texas A&M: ‘26-‘27 home-home
Arizona State/LSU: ‘26, ‘29 home-home
UCLA/Auburn ‘27-‘28 home-home

2018 - nil
2019 - 2
2020 - 3
2021 - 3
2022 - 1
2023 - 1
2024 - 3
2025 - 2
2026 - 2
2027 - 3
2028 - 1
2029 - 1

0 - Utah, OSU, WSU, UDub, Ark, FL, UGA, Mizzou, TN, KY, SCAR, OleMiss
1 - UofA, CU, OR, USC, Stan, Cal, Vandy. BAMA
2 - UCLA, A&M, Auburn, MSU, LSU
3 - ASU

PAC- 22 of 432 OOC (5% of non-con inventory)
SEC- 22 of 576 OOC (4% of non-con inventory)
 
FLounder said:
Absolutely not true. Has anyone ever recruited like this? Maybe USC in the mid 2000’s, but if you’re merely talking blue bloods. Texas 2011-now.
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Texas has had over 20 players drafted in that span despite being down, and they haven't been recruiting like Alabama. High level, as reflected by those draft picks though.

Miami during the same number of years from 01-08 had a very similar number of players drafted to Bama from 11-18.

I'm sure if I did the research, teams that are always in the top 5 of recruiting ALWAYS produce the most NFL talent. Even if the teams don't have high levels of success.
 
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Medford M. said:
I'm saying it doesn't take a great coach to win with what he's given.
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The guy before him had all the same advantages. The guy who comes after him will have them, too. Lots of schools have all those resources. I don’t see those schools pulling off what Saban has done at Alabama.
 
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