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MtnBuff said:
Arguably the step from college basketball to the NBA is bigger than in any other major team sports. In football guys are forced to spend 3 years at the college level and are more physically and mentally mature, baseball and hockey have minor league systems that provide intermediate steps.

In college the best and most talented guys aren't around more than one year so they guys playing it don't see much of them compared to playing football in a power conference lining up against future pros multiple weeks.

Cody two years ago was playing HS ball, this year he is out there looking at guys like Aaron Gordon guarding him.
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It's bigger in hockey and baseball because there's so much skill development, hence the full minor league systems in each and the very rare amateur draftee who plays in the MLB or NHL in year 1.
 
Robert Sorell said:
It's bigger in hockey and baseball because there's so much skill development, hence the full minor league systems in each and the very rare amateur draftee who plays in the MLB or NHL in year 1.
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But this is the point as it relates to guys like Williams. In baseball, in hockey, he would normally spend a period of time, in some cases multiple years, in the minors playing against a progressively higher level of competition allows them to adjust to a much higher level of play, and talent.

In basketball one year after getting out of high school a guy, 19 years old at the start of the season, finds himself on the bench and on the floor with the best players in the world.

Very few young basketball players including some who are lottery picks make an immediate impact on their teams in the first or even first couple years. While they are sitting watching their baseball and football equivelents are working their way through the system.
 
MtnBuff said:
But this is the point as it relates to guys like Williams. In baseball, in hockey, he would normally spend a period of time, in some cases multiple years, in the minors playing against a progressively higher level of competition allows them to adjust to a much higher level of play, and talent.

In basketball one year after getting out of high school a guy, 19 years old at the start of the season, finds himself on the bench and on the floor with the best players in the world.

Very few young basketball players including some who are lottery picks make an immediate impact on their teams in the first or even first couple years. While they are sitting watching their baseball and football equivelents are working their way through the system.
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I agree that guys like Cody need time to develop, and I think the NBA will be well served to keep investing in the G-League, Cody did spend time in the G-League this year playing against a lower level of competition.

That just means your point is that the jump from NCAA basketball to NBA is bigger than from AAA to MLB or from AHL to NHL. The jump from NCAA baseball/hockey to MLB/NHL is bigger. The jump from the SEC to the NFL is probably similar.

I'm quibbling with the college to pro jump you described.
 
Robert Sorell said:
I agree that guys like Cody need time to develop, and I think the NBA will be well served to keep investing in the G-League, Cody did spend time in the G-League this year playing against a lower level of competition.

That just means your point is that the jump from NCAA basketball to NBA is bigger than from AAA to MLB or from AHL to NHL. The jump from NCAA baseball/hockey to MLB/NHL is bigger. The jump from the SEC to the NFL is probably similar.

I'm quibbling with the college to pro jump you described.
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Yes, you can argue that the skill level in baseball and hockey are higher (and basketball may be more dependent on natural physical talent, you can't teach 6'9" and jump out of the gym.)

My point is that especially for the one and done guys the jump from college ball to the NBA is bigger than faced in other sports because of those intermediate steps.

The NBA could use the G-League to make that transition (and make the G-League a more valuable property in the process) but with the money involved I think most teams want their high draft picks in uniform for the main team. They might even reduce the number of draft bust but I don't see much movement that direction.
 
CW was young when he came to Boulder, played half the season because of injury, then became a lottery pick a few months later. He's a talented dude that needs time.
 
This first 5 years in the league, Chauncey bounced around and many considered him a bust. He played 1 year in Boston, then 1 year in Toronto, then 1 here in Denver then 2 in Minnesota before finally finding a home in Detroit.
 
DBT said:
This first 5 years in the league, Chauncey bounced around and many considered him a bust. He played 1 year in Boston, then 1 year in Toronto, then 1 here in Denver then 2 in Minnesota before finally finding a home in Detroit.
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Harden, Butler, Brunson. Lowry, Siakam

NBA player development regularly results in players becoming surprise stars after a few years (or more) of not being seen as starter material on a good team. One of the cool things about the Association, imo.
 
slider said:
Jazz drafted two 6’8 SG/SF types in the first round. Cody Williams’ competition got harder
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Actually one 6'8" forward in Ace Bailey and a 6'2" guard in Walter Clayton picks 5 and 18 but both are high volume shooters and both are likely to jump ahead of Cody on the priority list.

Utah doesn't is now a young team without a lot of high dollar veterans.

Wishful thinking is for the Nuggets to trade them MPJ for a bunch of future draft picks and they can throw Cody into the deal, maybe even send them Zeke for Cody. ;)
 
MtnBuff said:
Actually one 6'8" forward in Ace Bailey and a 6'2" guard in Walter Clayton picks 5 and 18 but both are high volume shooters and both are likely to jump ahead of Cody on the priority list.

Utah doesn't is now a young team without a lot of high dollar veterans.

Wishful thinking is for the Nuggets to trade them MPJ for a bunch of future draft picks and they can throw Cody into the deal, maybe even send them Zeke for Cody. ;)
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Idk much about the Clayton kid, but Ace Bailey is athletic as hell and can shoot the rock.
 
BuffLuke80 said:
Idk much about the Clayton kid, but Ace Bailey is athletic as hell and can shoot the rock.
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Bailey does shoot, sometimes too much. He has a reputation for taking bad shots and shooting when there are better options available.

Clayton is a bit undersized but can create shots, also needs to become a more willing passer.
 
RumblinBuff said:
OG Mayor entering his 12th NBA season... Linear time was a mistake, man.
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Buffnik said:
They did trade Micic, so I don't think that Spencer increased numbers at the position.
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That's still a very crowded backcourt right now. And even though they traded Micic it was for another guard in Connaughton, granted a shooting guard. They also just resigned Tre Mann.
 
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