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Honestly, if we go 5-7 next year and are competitive in our losses I can live with that.QB. End of story. Want to go to a bowl game next year? Then get a QB in here that will either start or significantly push who we have. Otherwise get ready to embrace 5-7 again.
Given the improvement of the team in the second half of the season and the uptick in recruiting, I’d be very disappointed with another consecutive five win season.Honestly, if we go 5-7 next year and are competitive in our losses I can live with that.
I assume we are going to lose at A&M
So 5 wins would most likely mean wins against
CSU, Fresno State, and then 3 between the AZ schools, socal schools, utah, Oregon, WSU, Standford and Washington
If you tell me we win 5 of those, and are competitive in the losses with a new QB that to me shows we are on the verge of breaking through in 2021 with most of the team including QB back
Then again, I'm more patient than most
I never assume true freshman are going to make enough of a difference to win games. They may contribute a little here or there at a position but I don't think they impact the win total too muchGiven the improvement of the team in the second half of the season and the uptick in recruiting, I’d be very disappointed with another consecutive five win season.
The freshmen we recruited better make impact plays. Otherwise, we recruited the wrong guys or the staff can’t coach.I never assume true freshman are going to make enough of a difference to win games. They may contribute a little here or there at a position but I don't think they impact the win total too much
And unfortunately for us we have almost the entire team back and more depth in some places aside from the most important position....QB
And pretty much an automatic loss on the non conf schedule
When you play an FCS school, two no name schools and have 2-3 gimmies in the conference you are correct.JFC, 6 ****ing wins in college football should not be hard. Tucker needs to be able to get this team to that mark next year. There are no excuses for CSU, Fresno, Arizona, and UCLA. Oregon seems to be the only real no hoper. Find two more wins in the 7 other Pac 12 games. 5-7 is unacceptable for a 4th straight season.
5-7 would mean 3 conference wins. 3-6 hurts Team needs to get to 5-4 in conference.The freshmen we recruited better make impact plays. Otherwise, we recruited the wrong guys or the staff can’t coach.
ASU is showing us one big thing: a competent staff who recruit at a solid level can get young players to contribute immediately toward a bowl season. I don’t expect us to win the P12, but not improving over 5-7 is unacceptable.
When you play an FCS school, two no name schools and have 2-3 gimmies in the conference you are correct.
That's not the situation we face. We have one non-conf game we almost have no chance to win. A rivalry game and another respectable opponent. 2-1 would be good there, but 1-2 is possible. Then you have a 9 game conference schedule where the easiest games are tossups
Not apples to apples. I live in Phoenix and know ASU wellThe freshmen we recruited better make impact plays. Otherwise, we recruited the wrong guys or the staff can’t coach.
ASU is showing us one big thing: a competent staff who recruit at a solid level can get young players to contribute immediately toward a bowl season. I don’t expect us to win the P12, but not improving over 5-7 is unacceptable.
Look at our opponents and show me if you think it is likely to win 5 conference games with a QB that has never started. Assuming Lewis or Stenstrom5-7 would mean 3 conference wins. 3-6 hurts Team needs to get to 5-4 in conference.
Not necessarily. Because we will have a QB with some experience entering the year along with a good chunk of the team back2021 is going to be brutal if you think 2020 is a bear.
I don’t not see five conference wins at all next year. Didn’t mean to intimate such. Just saying that 5-4 in conference is a key milestone that needs to be avhievef.Look at our opponents and show me if you think it is likely to win 5 conference games with a QB that has never started. Assuming Lewis or Stenstrom
Have to look at the whole picture
Not necessarily. Because we will have a QB with some experience entering the year along with a good chunk of the team back
And these last two recruiting classes that have been pretty solid will not be true freshman
Next year we are hoping for more wins against a harder schedule with a new QB and some true Freshman playing meaningful time. Doesn't seem realistic to me, but what do I know?
You see what they have returning on their two deep? And recent recruiting? Could very well be a Top 10-12 team next year.When did aTm become some juggernaut? It’s not going to be an easy game but calling it a no hoper is pretty pollyannish.
5-7 is not progress. I expect progress. You don’t so I guess that’s where we go our separate ways.Not apples to apples. I live in Phoenix and know ASU well
First of all, they had two conference wins against one of the worst teams in FBS, and an FCS team...and they struggled in both. They won a game at Michigan state that their offense scored once (michigan state also ended up not being very good). And in conference play they avoided Washington, and got Cal with a backup QB taking his first snap. They also beat WSU at the last second. So they were that close to going 5-7 EVEN WITH those two automatic non-conf wins.
You are correct, they got some good play out of Jayden Daniels at QB considering he was a true freshman. But he also had stretches where he struggled, and don't forget he was extremely highly rated.
Long story short I have zero doubt that if ASU had played our schedule they don't win 6 games. Maybe not even 5, and I believe this is backed up by the fact that we beat them on the road in a game where we had 6 starters out at one point
Can't look just at wins and losses when you are building. Have to look at who you play, how tough you play them, and if you got better from one year to the next. Wins/losses alone won't tell you that.
If we go 5-7 next year with wins against CSU, Fresno State, ASU, UCLA, Oregon and say at Stanford. And we lose 3-4 games by a score that we fight until the end against teams like A&M, Washington, USC, etc with a new QB with no experience that to me shows some progress
Then in 2021 I will expect results with no excuses
If Lewis is indeed you QB of the future, Tucker only has 2 options:Not necessarily. Because we will have a QB with some experience entering the year along with a good chunk of the team back
And these last two recruiting classes that have been pretty solid will not be true freshman
Next year we are hoping for more wins against a harder schedule with a new QB and some true Freshman playing meaningful time. Doesn't seem realistic to me, but what do I know?
I expect a minimum of 6 wins. If we can’t get there next year, that is really not good for our beloved Coach Tucker.5-7 would mean 3 conference wins. 3-6 hurts Team needs to get to 5-4 in conference.