If Shanahan stopped short, your head would be in his rear.....
seriously....
We are comparing apples to lemons here.... lets not decide between Shanny and Hawkins, lets compare Shanny to other possible BCS coaches....
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New Rumor thing on ESPN about CU and Shanny
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If Shanahan stopped short, your head would be in his rear.....
seriously....
We are comparing apples to lemons here.... lets not decide between Shanny and Hawkins, lets compare Shanny to other possible BCS coaches....
:iagree:
Recruiting is mostly about work, the head coach as to be constantly on the road and on the phone during recruiting periods. I have a hard time seeing a long-time NFL coach doing that.
It seems to me that someone who is currently an assistant at a successful BCS program [like Mac was] would be the best choice.
Your nuts. Griese was an excellent college player. Guys like John Elway and Dan Marino and Peyton Manning come along once in a lifetime. The Dolphins have had 15 QBs in the time the Broncos had 5. Cutler was a draft gem and he worked well in Shanny's system. Why is he playing not so good in Chicago while Orton shines? In part because of Shannys OL and that outstanding blocking work they perform.
Junction
Club Member
Yes, let's do that. I'd be curious to see your list of possible BCS coaches better than Shanahan....
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Yeah, I kinda think that's the direction this is heading. If Bohn pulls the trigger, the replacement will prolly be a D1 assistant.
Yes, let's do that. I'd be curious to see your list of possible BCS coaches better than Shanahan....
If i sat and thought about a list of coaches, it would include people that have been involved with recruiting. I do not know Shanahan's level of involvment with that aspect.
Right now I am trying to get my post count up because i took a 2 year hiatus from this board...
Ill think later
ScottyBuff
Well-Known Member
So what do NFL coaches do with all that free time in the off-season? You don't think they spend tons of time on the road scouting players, working the phones with agents/players/general managers?
Sure there are differences, but to imply that an NFL coach isn't prepared to "do work" is preposterous.
Pete Carroll is 58 years old, began his coaching career in the NCAA in 1978 as a defensive backs coach, worked his way up to coordinator positions then went to the NFL in 1984 as a position coach. He progressed in the NFL up to being a head coach until 1999. He is known as a "tireless" worker in recruiting.
From WikiPedia: "He was not the Trojans' first choice, and was considered a long shot as the USC Athletic Department under Director Mike Garrett initially planned to hire a high-profile coach with recent college experience. Meanwhile Carroll, who had not coached in over a year and not coached in the college ranks since 1983 drew unfavorable comparisons to the outgoing Hackett...The choice of Carroll for USC's head coaching position was openly criticized by the media and many USC fans, primarily because of USC's stagnation under the outgoing Hackett and Carroll's record as a head coach in the NFL and being nearly two decades removed from the college level...Garrett took particular criticism for the hire, with the press tying his future with Carroll's after he had to fire two head coaches in four years for USC's premiere athletic coaching position."
Mike Shanahan is 57 years old, began his coaching career in the NCAA in 1975 as an offensive assistant, worked his way up to coordinator positions at "major college" programs then went to the NFL in 1984 as a position coach. He progressed in the NFL up to being a head coach until 2008.
From Inside the Mind of Mike Shanahan by Stefan Fatsis: "...he told an interviewer than he hadn't taken more than a week off in a 15-year coaching career that included a marriage and the birth of two children....Shanahan expects those around him to understand, apply, and enforce his standards of organization, punctuality and responsibility. He has little tolerance for people who don't work as hard he works, as restlessly and as constantly. Which doesn't leave much room."
I'm not saying that Shanahan is interested, or that we could make him a good enough offer to him, or that if he did come here that we would become the new USC Trojans. But you have to look at the similarities of the situation objectively, and certainly agree that there should be alot less concern over whether or not Shanahan could adapt to the NCAA, recruiting and all.
We would be lucky to have him come to CU, we could not possibly find a better coach in any way shape or form than Mike Shanahan.
If he isn't interested, or CU doesn't offer him, I am sure we can still find great candidates, but nobody would bring more certainty for success than Shanahan, in my opinion.
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
You obviously haven't seen all my posts of who I would want to be the next CU coach
You have said no to several and you like several...
I was just poking at the number of Shanahan posts that you have made...
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
A lot lately because I like him and would welcome him and it is more possible than people think.
I also make a lot of posts about CU football because I like them.
I think everyone would be ecstatic if he came here.... and no one on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes.... if they did, shame on them fo rnot buying an AllBuffs suite....
and you have been made fun of for those.... especially the Big 12 clock. :thumbsup:
Wyo Buff
Well-Known Member
This is funny since our 94 line was based on a lighter quicker Bronco (49er at the time as well) Oline. Worked O.K. for Salaam and nobody called us "finesse" back then.
oh my god.....i forgot about the big 12 clock :lol:
Last I checked, zone blocking just referrs to how the OL choose their targets, not how they actually block them. Putting the guy in front of you on the ground, regardless of the blocking scheme that decides who does it, is pretty ****ing physical play if you ask me. And that's exactly what Wyo and company did back in his day. And it's exactly what our current OL is NOT doing.
Somebody take a picture. I don't think 96 has ever wrote this much. :smile2:
No, but I'm pretty sure it's him. I see the ****.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
They ran a lot more options then. That type of offense uses a more mobile o/line.
TheEvilBeak
Member
Not that Shanahan isn't a good coach...but...
What did he do that is so great?
He worked for probably the 2nd best owner in the NFL as far as money spending/acquisitions.
He had one of the best QBs to ever play, best TE, etc...
I would lean towards he needs to show something he has done with his own guys.
Take away Elway and the boys and things didn't go so well.
I think you stick with a guy that knows the college game and can tolerate the kids and all their issues. This college game is a whole 'nother world.
What did he do that is so great?
He worked for probably the 2nd best owner in the NFL as far as money spending/acquisitions.
He had one of the best QBs to ever play, best TE, etc...
I would lean towards he needs to show something he has done with his own guys.
Take away Elway and the boys and things didn't go so well.
I think you stick with a guy that knows the college game and can tolerate the kids and all their issues. This college game is a whole 'nother world.
canuck_buff
Active Member
If a ****in moron like Wannstedt can do it . Then I have no doubt Shanny would be up to the task:thumbsup:
ThndringHerd
Well-Known Member
Did you ever watch them play while Wade Phillips was coach? :huh:
Elway better thank Shanahan for his 2 SB rings, and being a 1st ballot HOF instead of on the bubble.
Start counting the QB's that Shanny coached to Pro Bowl seasons on one hand. You might need a second hand to finish. Same for RB's he picked off the scrap heap who ran for 1000 yds in the NFL. BRIAN GRIESE made the Pro Bowl when he played for Shanahan. Nuf said.
You think college players have 'issues' compared to say, Brandon Marshall?
:wtf:
I suppose now you're going to tell us how some ex-fusker with a sub .500 record at a MAC school would be a better coach?
as a die hard Philadelphia Eagles fan... and no emotional interest in the opinion of Mike Shanahan...
but your fing nuts...... Have a good day :smile2:
what can make me sh!t bricks? mine is always very watery....
if u have the answer to combat Colitis and Crohn's, I beleive you have an ethical obligation to share....
Large quantities of cheese should do the trick. :smile2:
you wanna sit behind me at a CU game and test that theory?
TheEvilBeak
Member
I heard that with Hawkins as well. I seriously doubt he would be in it for the long haul. Is that really what you want? You want more nepotism? Have at it. You sound more like you are interested in some sort of validation as opposed to the best interests of the program.
Last I knew, a Coach doesn't play the game. A Coach is not something you fear.
TheEvilBeak
Member
This is Porn Stache's 1st season of note...or where they may actually be half decent. You do realize he coaches in the Big east, correct? I think they did do the Fiesta Bowl one year by default as the Big east Champ.
SCB
Well-Known Member
What about Fat-Mangino. His own players fear him. :lol: