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*** Official 2015 CBI Gardner-Webb @ Colorado Basketball Game Thread ***
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seattlebuff
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Looks like they're coming to Seattle again. Missed the UW game, but I'll be at this one ... let's make it a 2015 Seattle sweep!
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Hopkins or Fletcher need to be the guy on the ball. Didn't understand the plan while watching it live.
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jgisland
Club Member
He didn't start
MarkW
Well-Known Member
I wondered why Dom wasn't starting as in my book he's earned serious playing time. He's been late eight times to shoot around this season? That's an issue. He's gonna be an awesome player sometime down the line, it would be a same to see him slow down his own progress.
When he's on the court the ball moves better and the Buffs seem to get good looks. He has a unique ability to get the ball to teammates at the right moment and place. CU has no other player with those skills.
As for the game v G-W, it was a microcosm of many of this season's games; the Buffs couldn't defend the trey and at the same time were able to own the interior and the boards. If this group learns to play defense as a team they'll be pretty good. But it has to be as a team. One continuous issue is allowing dribble penetration and then not rotating quickly enough. Tonight many of G-W's treys came when their point guard was able to quickly dribble towards the basket and then whip a pass to an teammate on the perimeter. This isn't the first game where this has happened.
Josh was a man amoung boys in the interior. And Tory Miller was also aggressive in getting points in the paint.
When he's on the court the ball moves better and the Buffs seem to get good looks. He has a unique ability to get the ball to teammates at the right moment and place. CU has no other player with those skills.
As for the game v G-W, it was a microcosm of many of this season's games; the Buffs couldn't defend the trey and at the same time were able to own the interior and the boards. If this group learns to play defense as a team they'll be pretty good. But it has to be as a team. One continuous issue is allowing dribble penetration and then not rotating quickly enough. Tonight many of G-W's treys came when their point guard was able to quickly dribble towards the basket and then whip a pass to an teammate on the perimeter. This isn't the first game where this has happened.
Josh was a man amoung boys in the interior. And Tory Miller was also aggressive in getting points in the paint.
jcatcher
Club Member
Ah, I was late. Left my tix on the printer and had to go back home. He was in really early, though.
OK - I'll look at the times you speak of...
Our wins on the scoreboard correlate very closely with our Assist Edge.
We lost every game except the USC double OT game when we had fewer than 10 assists.
We won every game when we won the assist total.
jgisland
Club Member
Who had double the assist rate compared to the rest of the team?
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
And CU did pay a good $um for the opportunity to give next-year's team some practice.
RK
UBL
Correct.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Not wild about likely going on the road now, but I guess we want to save some money. We probably aren't going to win this tournament if it's going to require us playing road games from here on out. Someone will beat us on their home court. We're the one major conference program in the field. We've got the target on our back.
Seattle is a much slower paced team than Gardner-Webb, it seems. Struggle on offense but stingy on D. They're a good team at home. One really good guard, another decent one. Seems like we should be able to dominate in the post. I'd be completely comfortable in winning this game if it was played in Boulder, but I just do not trust CU on the road. Big opportunity for our younger guys to show a major step up in maturity by beating a team we should beat on the road. One step at a time. Beat Seattle!
Seattle is a much slower paced team than Gardner-Webb, it seems. Struggle on offense but stingy on D. They're a good team at home. One really good guard, another decent one. Seems like we should be able to dominate in the post. I'd be completely comfortable in winning this game if it was played in Boulder, but I just do not trust CU on the road. Big opportunity for our younger guys to show a major step up in maturity by beating a team we should beat on the road. One step at a time. Beat Seattle!
All totally fair points we also were much better against bad teams and had a habit of losing to good ones. My point was that if a team defended well and limited our points at the rim we had fewer assists and generally lost. Against poor defensive squads we averaged more assists and generally won. I think the assist are an outfllow of who we are playing and not the team sharing the ball more or less. I dont think this season sharing the ball resulted in us winning, I think playing ****ty defensive squads was a larger contributor.
UW is a good example of this with upshaw protecting the rim they could gamble play solid defense and were a very effective first half defensive squad - first time we played we lost and had 8 assists. Once he was suspended their defense fell apart, they could not protect the rim and we had more assists and won.
So lets not get ahead of ourselves llike we did after wazzu when while playing a bad defensive team we got a few assists, especially when that team couldnt protect the rim.
we also won every game we scored more points than then the opponent
I'm less concerned with assists than I am with turnovers. Good ball movement resulting in taking good shots doesn't alway mean that you're getting a lot of assists. Cases in point, neither Nate nor Mayor were high assist guys but they did break down defenses and get the ball to guys in good position to make a play.
Taking care of the ball is my big thing. With the rebounding CU does so well at, we're getting extra possessions there. If the Buffs can keep turnovers down, we'll see extra possessions from that too. This year, we have had 436 turnovers in 33 games for a 13.2 average. I think a reasonable target for next season is to get that down under 11. If that happens, we're looking at a little over 2 extra possessions a game which translates into 2 or 3 extra points along with eliminating a couple transition opportunities for the opponent. Very impactful to the final score.
Taking care of the ball is my big thing. With the rebounding CU does so well at, we're getting extra possessions there. If the Buffs can keep turnovers down, we'll see extra possessions from that too. This year, we have had 436 turnovers in 33 games for a 13.2 average. I think a reasonable target for next season is to get that down under 11. If that happens, we're looking at a little over 2 extra possessions a game which translates into 2 or 3 extra points along with eliminating a couple transition opportunities for the opponent. Very impactful to the final score.
That dunk by Tory, something fierce.
Agree. Looking forward to his continued development
I'm much more concerned with the Turnover:Assist ratio. I think that tells a lot more of the story than either one by themselves.