DrunkRalphie
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With the CU staff filled out and Chev moving to full time play caller at OC is there any word on who will be the recruiting coordinator? I can't imagine Chev has the time or energy to continue in the position.
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Official 2017 Coaching Carousel Thread - Zona hires Sumlin
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Buffnik
I'm very willing to be a bag man and keep silent about it. I'd do a great job at that. (Not that CU would ever do that sort of thing.)
fwiw, I'd be a ****ty recruiter because I'd melt down after a while with the b.s. you hear and deal with while having to stay politically positive all the time with recruits/parents/coaches. I'm not a natural salesman. I'm much better as a marketer & strategist who doesn't have to deal directly with people all the time.
Does this look like a man whose going to willingly give up his recruiting coordinator title? Chev lives for the challenge.
Former Buff, Ted Johnson, is on the radio down here and I heard him the other day, say that he has no interest at all in coaching at the college level because of all that goes into the sales aspect of recruiting. Said he couldn't stomach the amount of butt kissing required.
lawdogg
Club Member
Probably better placed in the recruiting forum, but kinda interesting that Chev includes the #CUin18 in that tweet. Looks like the hunt continues for some ballers to close out this class.
Maybe. Could also just mean that he's visiting kids who have already signed. It's not like they stop talking to them until they arrive.
jizzrag85
Well-Known Member
Why would being an OC take your ability to recruit away? During the season? Sure. But there are 8 other months.
Now I see the story. Hmm.
BUFFering
Well-Known Member
Oregonian ranks PAC 12 coaches. I'm surprised MM is as low as he is.
http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefo...e_pac-12s_head_footba.html#incart_river_index
http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefo...e_pac-12s_head_footba.html#incart_river_index
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Leach seems low, otherwise seems reasonable.
There's a whole lot of TBD behind UW, Stanford, Utah and WSU in my opinion. To me, there's no question that those 4 can coach.
Kelly is a tbd as this will be his first run with a staff of his own construction.
MM and Helton I'd put in the middle, but this year will be very telling for both.
Sumlin has made every program worse after year 1. He is not top half.
Wilcox had an impressive year 1, but would want to see a few more years.
No information for the other 3. How do they put Cristobal up there, only because he's known as a good recruiter?
Their rating of MM is pretty laughable. Put the OSU coach ahead of him? Ok....
Kelly is a tbd as this will be his first run with a staff of his own construction.
MM and Helton I'd put in the middle, but this year will be very telling for both.
Sumlin has made every program worse after year 1. He is not top half.
Wilcox had an impressive year 1, but would want to see a few more years.
No information for the other 3. How do they put Cristobal up there, only because he's known as a good recruiter?
Their rating of MM is pretty laughable. Put the OSU coach ahead of him? Ok....
Chev is still listed as the recruiting coordinator on the CUAD website. It's been updated with the new hires so I would think there would have been a press release and website update by now if Chev was going to give up the RC title.
http://cubuffs.com/roster.aspx?path=football#sidearm-roster-coaches
Fallout from the mich st rapist - the AD has been fired & there is allegedly some heat on Dantonio and Izzo.
Edit: AD "stepped down". Barstool sports speculates on twitter that both coaches may resign.
Edit: AD "stepped down". Barstool sports speculates on twitter that both coaches may resign.
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It was already a terrible ****ing mess. If Dantonio and Izzo bounce, oh man, wonder what will come of that?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-larry-nassar-scandal/?utm_term=.df3be0d76ae6
With renewed scrutiny on Michigan St, it looks like these guys may well be forced out.
With renewed scrutiny on Michigan St, it looks like these guys may well be forced out.
DrunkRalphie
Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity are many coordinators also the recruiting coordinator at other schools? I'm not saying Chev can't do it, he is qualified and a motivated football coach. Just seems like a huge amount of work to combine both. But in my ignorance I may be way off on this.
Go Chev, go Buffs!
CULifer
Well-Known Member
Poach the
Poach the **** out of Sparty's current players and '18 recruits.
I’m a HCMM fan, but we did not look well coached last year.
First year I'd actually say that about the team, so I see it as a warning flag but also something I can put in the rearview very quickly if it doesn't happen again. Not everyone is like that, though. Lots of people are very reactionary and have short memories. Case in point, the thousands of Florida State fans who decided in 2017 that Jimbo Fisher was a bad coach.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Tucker
Not gonna happen.
cu62nu36
fascist tool
Really? Why? Did you misplace the "bag"?
He canceled his visit. And Adam said a few days ago* that he's thought to be leaning ASU because it's where he grew up and has family.
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There is a staff of people who handle coordination and admin for recruiting, under Adam Toyama. I'm not sure we've compiled what the duties of CUs recruiting coordinator are, if Toyama reports to him, etc?
I'm under the strong impression that it's not a big load. More of a title for best recruiter to get, to help elevate his pay and status.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Only issue I've got is flipping MM and Jonathan Smith........other than that I can't find anything to quibble about-especially coming off of a year that was a big a flop as last year was.
In 5 years, Sumlin never had a team win more than a preceding year, with a gazillion dollar budget. After the first year, they had a losing record in the SEC.
But aTm replaced him with Jimbo Fisher who went from 8-0 to 3-5 in the ACC in the last 4 years, getting worse each and every year.
Perhaps they will get "improving results" because they are paying Jimbo and staff way more than Sumlin, who was very highly paid.
I suspect Sumlin will recruit better than any preceding Arizona coach in history, but not be more competitive in general. That may be good enough for Tucson?
But aTm replaced him with Jimbo Fisher who went from 8-0 to 3-5 in the ACC in the last 4 years, getting worse each and every year.
Perhaps they will get "improving results" because they are paying Jimbo and staff way more than Sumlin, who was very highly paid.
I suspect Sumlin will recruit better than any preceding Arizona coach in history, but not be more competitive in general. That may be good enough for Tucson?