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Official at Arizona St Score Prediction Thread

ASU 28, Buff 10 (sorry)

At this point in time, there are only 3 games where the Buffs may have a shot: Arizona, UCLA, and maybe, just maybe Stanford. All subject to change as the season unfolds. At this time 4-8 is the most likely outcome. For those of you thinking bowl game, perhaps you should look at the schedule and find 4 more wins. That is going to be tough. We must look to the future and hope that Mel can recruit. If he can, great. If not, then you know the outcome as we have lived it for over ten years now.
 
TSchekler said:
ASU OL isn’t very good and our DL is able to contain Benjamin. Tucker and Summer put together a good game plan for the true freshman QB and the defense plays fairly well.

Offense has a chip on their shoulder after this week and they put together a complete effort.

Buffs - 31
Sun Devils - 23
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I'll go along with that all day.
 
Montez will be at ALL the sorority houses the night before.

Our defense can't stop a mobile QB or a good RB, but will face both.

Our game hinges on how quickly Montez recovers from his hangover. Night game, so I'm going:

CU: 40
ASU: 36

<3 total punts.
 
manhattanbuf said:
I have a max ticket at Circa Under 54.5 and a regular bet at Under 51.5 offshore.
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I don't bet but have enjoyed and learned a lot from the betting side from you, and good luck to all you guys. I was wondering if you look at or approach conference games differently than OOC play? tia
 
68buffs said:
I don't bet but have enjoyed and learned a lot from the betting side from you, and good luck to all you guys. I was wondering if you look at or approach conference games differently than OOC play? tia
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The short answer is yes. Conference play has an impact depending upon styles and whether teams will clash well stylistically. I like the under in this matchup because of deficiencies I see with both teams’ offenses.
 
CU - 19
ASU - 16

This one could go either way but good Montez tends to come play after bad Montez. Even with good Montez though this is going to be low scoring.
 
manhattanbuf said:
I have a max ticket at Circa Under 54.5 and a regular bet at Under 51.5 offshore.
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54.5 is good. Circa is missing on some early lines it seems to me. Your runner is paying off.

Down to 49.5 on my off shore.

49.5 and 7.5 suggests 28-21 ASU.
 
Certainly there are reasons for concern with the Buffs' ability to stop the run, but the type of run games we've seen are very different than what ASU and Eno Benjamin bring to the table. I think the Buffs are better up the middle than we are on the edges, and that will help to slow Benjamin.

The offense will struggle, both in the heat and against a tough defense.

Special teams gives us a big advantage.

Buffs 19
Scum Devils 17
 
hawg1 said:
54.5 is good. Circa is missing on some early lines it seems to me. Your runner is paying off.

Down to 49.5 on my off shore.

49.5 and 7.5 suggests 28-21 ASU.
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Yeah, my buddy is a high roller who has an arrangement with them to get access to their early lines in exchange for him giving the casino a huge chunk of black jack action.
 
Buffs 31
ASU 24

PAC12 road wins are rare for the Buffs. Embree had 2. Outside of 2014, I think HCMM only had two, maybe less.

I think Montez plays freer and bounces back. Either he can be great on the road (i.e. the loss to SC, where he made all the plays, also he was decent last year at UoA in the desert) or a stinker (Cal and WSU last year, but WSU game was a no win for CU, unless a young Peyton was behind center). My only concern is whether the OL will play better. They cannot do another AFA or this is going to be a long season.

I think the defense will play more than 2 good quarters, rather than 1 great one. Part of my thinking is that this is game 4 under the new defensive scheme, and AFA was an aberration given their unique scheme. CU will have ASU game film, this years and last; thus the coaching staff will have a more complete plan preparation wise and they can make small adjustments earlier (before halftime). CU is young, but those youngsters now have three games under their belt. Maddox will be a loss, but Rackstraw will step up. ASU has a frosh QB, and if CU can pressure the QB with Johnson or the LB blitzes, they can rattle the Frosh.
 
I'll be at the Dodger game that night, so I'll have to watch the recording when I get home. That might be a good thing. Still, I'm feeling optimistic today:

Buffs 24
Arizona Trash Bags: 23
 
Bread said:
When you say they are a two headed monster, are you referring to Daniels and Benjamin? Because neither have really looked like "Monsters" to me. That line makes Benjamin looks mediocre
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Sorry, I meant the Buffs, and two-headed monster was a poor choice of description. Jekyll and Hyde would have been better to describe the 1H and 2H Buffs playing so far this season.
 
68buffs said:
I don't bet but have enjoyed and learned a lot from the betting side from you, and good luck to all you guys. I was wondering if you look at or approach conference games differently than OOC play? tia
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I think conference games are approached much differently. Generally, you have more film (either from the previous years or the 3 OOC games) which should make preparation better. Many teams have the same coaches, so in many instances they run the same schemes. For teams with returning QBs, WRs, or RBs, the film can show some keys, which the defense can either pick-up on or CU can adjust their scheme against in weekly preparation. With a good staff, which MT seems to have proven, I think these games will be closer, except for a few on the road. The talent can be much better (i.e. USC at the skill positions, or UO/UW overall). WSU is just a nightmare to play, especially on the road.

Also, for the PAC12, I think the glaring weakness for all the teams (except perhaps UO/UW) is their front 5-7 on both sides of the ball. With CALI dropping 2000-4000 HS players each year, the conference's talent base is shrinking, especially for lineman. Also, with CALI severely curtailing the amount of practice and contact (it is like 30 mins of full contact, twice a week) via a new law (yes, CALI passed strict regulations on HS football) the experience level for younger CALI players is really limited. For CALI lineman, except for the few schools that play nationwide, just based on the lack of competition, I think that CALI OL and DL will have a longer development curve, thus have to play as juniors and seniors. I believe in the long-run this may benefit CU greatly, as we are recruiting Texas, Georgia and the South pretty good. If there is ever to be a resurgence of CU into the top-10, this recruiting footprint will be a key factor in any Return to Dominance. I like RTD more than any Rise!!
 
I predicted a win, I am far from confident in that pick. Montez is like a box of chocolates, yeah, you know the rest. He either looks like a really good QB, or he doesn't have a damn clue. If his mental ability ever catches up with his physical ability, he could be really good. Hope he can, his team needs him to ball out. Hope he proves people, me included, wrong. I should've probably said, emotional ability. You don't have to be rah rah, you can tell when he's down, though.
 
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