That is in no way a record low for Lincoln.
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Official ****braska Hate Thread
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ahoelsken
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AEROBUFF
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The all time low happened on Nov 23, 2001 in Boulder.
WarBuff
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I don’t believe they’ve come off it either.
This deserves way more love
It's over for Nebraska.
Trump outed nearly their entire fan base as a bunch of fat white people who have shown through their voting, that they support racism.
The message is clear. Nebraskans are racist.
Sen. John McCollister, Republican state lawmaker from Nebraska is blasting his party for “enabling white supremacy in our country” and calling on the state’s all-GOP congressional delegation to speak out against President Donald Trump’s inflammatory comments about minorities.
Guess what, nobody in Nebraska followed him.
Trump Approval ratings by state? Nebraska trailed only Alabama, West Virginia and Wyoming (these latter two are Coal Producing states desperately trying to hold on to their jobs base). Colorado #31 (Source: https://stacker.com/stories/2532/states-highest-and-lowest-trump-approval-ratings).
Senator Sasse is being censured in Nebraska because he had the spine to vote against Trump.
You see, you can't support a racist POTUS on one hand so strongly, and then rely on "the great black athlete" to travel halfway across the country to come play for your sole benefit. You just cannot have it both ways.
Nubsters, you want an average football team again? Fire Scott Frost, and fix your politics. That starts with EDUCATION.
Trump outed nearly their entire fan base as a bunch of fat white people who have shown through their voting, that they support racism.
The message is clear. Nebraskans are racist.
Sen. John McCollister, Republican state lawmaker from Nebraska is blasting his party for “enabling white supremacy in our country” and calling on the state’s all-GOP congressional delegation to speak out against President Donald Trump’s inflammatory comments about minorities.
Guess what, nobody in Nebraska followed him.
Trump Approval ratings by state? Nebraska trailed only Alabama, West Virginia and Wyoming (these latter two are Coal Producing states desperately trying to hold on to their jobs base). Colorado #31 (Source: https://stacker.com/stories/2532/states-highest-and-lowest-trump-approval-ratings).
Senator Sasse is being censured in Nebraska because he had the spine to vote against Trump.
You see, you can't support a racist POTUS on one hand so strongly, and then rely on "the great black athlete" to travel halfway across the country to come play for your sole benefit. You just cannot have it both ways.
Nubsters, you want an average football team again? Fire Scott Frost, and fix your politics. That starts with EDUCATION.
I don’t think Alabama has any problem attracting Black Athletes. I really don’t think politics has any bearing on where a kid decides to go to college. Being a backwater, loser program in the middle of nowhere led by an inept dip**** head coach has a much more significant impact.
Those look like the point spreads that fusker opponents are favored by, The top one is for a MAC team.
Alabama is in a very different situation than Nebraska.
1. they are not rebuilding
2. there are actually black people in Alabama
3. there are other black people at the University.
Nebraska is trying to recruit kids from a totally different culture to come to a far away and very different place than Houston or Birmingham or Tampa.
That's a big difference.
Do you think the reaction is the same in Lincoln when a black player is dating a white girl as the reaction is in Boulder?
edit: I'll remind you how you've been dismissive in the past on Trumpism if you'd like to go down that road?
I just don’t think Trump or his supporters are a deciding factor for where a kid decides to go to college. It would be nice if it was, though.
SeanMSan
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THIS! All of it. This state doesn’t even know what’s good for them. The political nub discussion is ripping Sasse (normally I’d be all for it, because Ben Sasse is a full-bore dip**** on a typical day - see his graduation speech fiasco), because he voted against Trump. This state leads the world in being duped to believe alternative facts...and it bleeds into sports and everyday aspects of life. Nubs are out of touch with reality...which is possibly a byproduct of living in such ****ty surroundings.
I live in this state, but no way will I beat my chest as a proud Nebraskan. Especially when I wake up to -20 - -30 degree temps, and frozen pipes leading to my kitchen sink...and rolling blackouts put into effect by the electric company.
#corpuschristi
Rob DeVere
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Rumor has it Burrito applied for Volleyball Uniform "adjustment" coach. Can't play well if they look sloppy!
I mean, it was pretty much a textbook UBL. If anything, UK's post deserved more love.
I was confused over that for many years. When weather reports call out a "record low for Lincoln on 16 Feb 2021", they don't mean "the lowest temperature EVER recorded in Lincoln was done on 16 Feb 2021". they mean "the lowest temperature ever recorded for a 16 February in any year".
I'm pretty sure you're ****ing with me.
New low?
I’m pretty sure he isn’t.
If politics played a part of my decision on where to go to college, Washington DC where I graduated from college would have been off limits. So would have CU if I was to consider going to CU. Politics is nowhere close to the reason why I hate Nebraska and is a lame excuse to hate Nebraska because there are certainly Nubs who are Dems themselves.
You are fooling yourself if Boulder hasn't had their problems with racism and that is a rock you are better off not tossing in the glass house. Promoting anti-racism is one thing but actually practicing it is another. Jesus Christ said to love your neighbors as yourselves and also love your enemies. Neither side of the CU-Nebraska rivalry can say they practice that better than the other.
It's normal to see kids wanting to leave their homes for a totally different culture than the one they grew up in. They end up learning much more about themselves than staying home for college and I'm one of those people.
You don't have to be an alumni to be a fan of said college football team. That isn't going to prevent conservatives or racists from buying CU Buff t-shirts and rooting for the team. The same could be said about liberals for Nebraska. If they fall in love with CU, it's possible they end up mending their ways and away from that racist ideology thanks to the positive experience they had with other CU fans. Turning those people away or using that as means to hate their favorite team will make it harder for them to get away from that lifestyle. Then you have cases of Buffs marrying Huskers or the other way around.
Using politics or race to justify your hate of another program isn't the best way to go. It's a sign that your hate of Nebraska is waning or you are forgetting why you hated Nebraska in the first place.
GoldStampede
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I think your raise some pretty good points here, although I disagree pretty strongly with the overall thrust of your post. I think you are overlooking some bigger picture details with anecdotal counter-examples.
Buffaholic may be going a bit overboard when he says that Trumpism spells the end of Nebraska. There will always be athletes of all races and backgrounds wanting to play, and there will be plenty of black recruits who are willing to overlook or not even consider Nub politics in their decision, because they see opportunity there, or they are just sort of indifferent to political issues, and totally zeroed in on sports or some aspect of their personal lives. But, every individual counts on a football team; bad teams can be made great with just a few key players finding synergy. In a time when people are so divided on politics, and often compelled to bring their political ideologies to the fore, do you really think "our state is known for supporting the racist party!" is not going to come back to hurt them in some way? It SHOULD come back to hurt them, and I think it probably will.
Yes, there are racist, Trump supporting CU fans; I know several, and they bleed black and gold and love Boulder... I don't want to be friends with these people, but I don't think they should be shunned or ostracized from the fanbase. I think it's pretty safe to say that they compose a minority of the fanbase (note-- I'm not including "conservatives" with this group, as Trumpism represents a break with traditional conservatism) and most of them are probably from more rural parts of the state. Whereas, well... you can see how Nebraskans voted, and put two and two together. You can find plenty of exceptions to this breakdown for both schools, and even if you couldn't, it's tacitly wrong to imagine a rock solid correlation between political affiliation/fan support.
That being said... I think you're being naïve if you think that there isn't a political dimension to the rivalry/hatred between these two fanbases. How often do we rip on Husker fans for being fat, pasty, redneck simpletons? We are having this discussion on page 358 of a thread that's full of people dunking on them for being incestuous morons who are stuck in the past. The things that we say about them are very much in line that those who are critical of Trump supporters say when they're mocking Trump supporters. Now, what do they say about CU fans? They talk about us as hippie, tree hugging fruitcakes. We're deviant, degenerate freaks and lazy stoners. It's the same type of **** they say about those on the political left. The cultural differences between Boulder and Lincoln, between Colorado and Nebraska, are microcosms of the ever-deepening political divide of the United States. It says something that, when both schools broke away from the Big 12, CU talked a lot about the Pac 12 being a better "cultural fit." Ironically, NU is a better cultural fit with the Big 12, and I think a lot of their fanbase would like to go back.
You might say that I'm thinking about this too in depth, that I just need to lighten up and enjoy sports as sports, because looking at it this way might not be "useful." You could be right about that, but I don't think there's much sense in denying that there is a sharp political difference between the generalized fanbases/states, and the suggestion that a significant number of black/minority athletes may not want to play in a place where they sense political hostility toward their race is far from a huge stretch. Not to mention, the NFL and professional sports have become increasingly politicized. That's the nature of putting a divisive figure like Trump in power; all that deep political stuff is going to come out in people. Where we once were able to play out those cultural differences/battles in the heated, hate-fueled, but ultimately harmless context of a football rivalry, they now seem to have a larger relevance to our lives and very wellbeing. I have one good Nebraska friend who, after our game in 2019, admitted something that I never expected: he HATES cu. He hates the politics, Boulder, his perception of the culture, all of it, and for that reason, he can't stand losing to the football team. Again, that's anecdotal evidence, which I implied you shouldn't use. But, since going to school in Boulder, I've lived in a number of very conservative areas, and I also grew up in a very conservative place. These people HATE Boulder. They see it as degenerate, wrong, antithetical to American values. That hostility is real, and it certainly gets channeled into sports.
It's certainly dicey to use politics to justify hating a football team/fanbase... but the sense of cultural divide people feel right now would exist with or without a football team. Nevertheless, the parallels between MAGA and the Scott Frost era at Nebraska are too glaring not to notice. Nubs have turned Frost into a cult figure; many still refuse to acknowledge his flaws. He's their guy! and he is going to be THE ONLY ONE who can MAKE NEBRASKA GREAT AGAIN. Their political energy has synced up with the football team and it's ****ing nutty. This mobilization is ultimately based on myth, and suicidal in nature. The contract extension Frost received in the middle of 2019? They're doubling down rather than holding accountable.
Again, I feel like I just went totally overboard with analysis. I agree we must love our neighbors and our enemies. But I can see what our neighbor/enemy is doing, and what they are motivated by... and it's not good. In our current era of social media, there will be plenty of recruits who see it, too.
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Racial hatred would seem to be way more important to a 17-18 year old black kid than "politics".
BTW, I'm just relaying some of what is coming out of the Nub locker-room and why Scott Frost is hosting bowling parties to build team unity.
I’m not prejudiced. I hate everybody!
Hey it's the offseason so going overboard on anything is acceptable at this time imo..LOL.
You are absolutely right that those Husker fans hated and Boulder with a passion and now they see Colorado has become more like Boulder. And I don't dismiss that political element of the CU-kNU rivalry since CU was long viewed as that liberal eye sore of the Big 8 and we hated the Nubs the most of the Big 8 schools but I don't think NE was the most conservative state in the Big 8 or Big 12. I never saw it as a DNC vs GOP thing in the rivalry but two very different fanbases. Just one mostly liberal fanbase against a mostly conservative fanbase regardless of what party they are part of. I grew up near some Husker neighbors and before the covid outbreak, I saw a few Husker fans in the office plus my own church's pastor is a Husker fan...he even bought me a Husker hat but I forgot where I put it (on purpose). That rivalry isn't going away for me anytime soon but I think politics in general needs to stay out of sports.
Sure Frosty seems more like Trump but he's a former Husker QB who beat CU in his playing days so screw him regardless of the situation. It's easier to hate on Nebraska because NE is easily the most conservative state in the Big Ten but at the same time, it's fun being part of a fanbase that is viewed as an outsider fanbase. That is what I really miss about being in the Big 8 and it was less of a factor because we also had Austin in the Big 12.
And I hope the Husker fans never change because it is so much fun to laugh at and mock them even if my political leanings are closer to the Husker fanbase than the CU fanbase but I couldn't stand Trump the last year of his presidency. I don't think it's necessary to include politics because it's already so clear both sides hate each other.
Just my two cents.
Got to hand it to those non-white athletes who had the courage to go somewhere that they might not be liked and show those people that the only difference between them could be the color of skin. That was a valuable experience for me especially when my college was in a heavy black area and I ended up seeing that they were more like normal people who were respectful than the "thugs" that nightly cable news channels portrayed them as. That's why using the alleged racist behavior of a team as means to hate the team seems illogical especially when you are only hearing about it instead of being at where those allegations are happening.
The Huskers are still the Huskers and screw 'em!
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
Exactly I really don't want to put this thread on ignore while everyone virtue signals.
Ummm.... I don't want to spill personal things that I don't know you've shared outside of barzil.
So... Let's just say that given the things you've shared in various places on this board and what you posted above - I know exactly where you went to school.
It makes perfect sense, and was most likely the very best place for you to go to college.
But part of the reason it was so great for you is because there was a very high concentration of people that were very similar to you in a very specific way.
Given that viewpoint, you may want to be more charitable towards those who find it nice to be among people who are, well, similar to them.
At the end of the day, I would rather people discriminate based on changeable characteristics (politics, being a bug eater, a predilection for red polyester, etc) than on unchangeable ones (race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, etc). Choosing a home based on the college or political party the neighbors cheer for = fine. Doing the same thing based on race, etc is just wrong.
PS: you would be shocked at what gentrification has done to the area around that campus. It's a much different place than it was even 10 years ago.