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Official ****braska Hate Thread

I get the visceral reaction to some red clad loon saying the NU is a top 5 job in the nation (it is not, and it's not even close), but to say that it's the worst job in the Big 10 is just as crazy. Jobs that are less desirable: In the West - Illinois, Purdue and Northwestern. In the East - I'd say Maryland, Rutgers and Indiana. So that puts them squarely in the middle of the pack of the Big 10, in my eyes. Not horrible, but nowhere even close to a top national program, let alone top 5.
Northwestern is a considerably better job and one of the better ones in the B1G. I’ll give you Indiana and Purdue, but I think the fan and administration expectations make it pretty close. The only thing Nebraska has going for it anymore is the financial support of fans and boosters and the administrative desire to win (which also makes it ****ty in a way).
 
Northwestern is a considerably better job and one of the better ones in the B1G. I’ll give you Indiana and Purdue, but I think the fan and administration expectations make it pretty close. The only thing ****braska has going for it anymore is the financial support of fans and boosters and the administrative desire to win (which also makes it ****ty in a way).
I don't think Northwestern is better. Fitzgerald has done an amazing job there, and I think they are a better football team right now, but it would not surprise me to see them regress to the mean when he's done, so I don't think the program is better overall. It's always seemed like a niche program to me, but maybe that's just my perception, going back to Barnett taking them to the Rose Bowl as a Cinderella story, back in the day.
 
I don't think Northwestern is better. Fitzgerald has done an amazing job there, and I think they are a better football team right now, but it would not surprise me to see them regress to the mean when he's done, so I don't think the program is better overall. It's always seemed like a niche program to me, but maybe that's just my perception, going back to Barnett taking them to the Rose Bowl as a Cinderella story, back in the day.
I'm with you there. Fitz has NW playing close to their ceiling, and they're still irrelevant.
 
I am hard pressed to think of a worse B1G job at this point. Illinois probably and I guess maybe Rutgers and/or Maryland? I’m not familiar enough with any of them to really say, but those 3 are the only others that might be worse
Let’s not get carried away. Purdue and Indiana are perennial bottom feeders with lackluster support. Northwestern is an elite academic institution with challenging admission requirements. All that said, kNU is not even in the top half of the conference. The thing they have that they think sets them apart is a big factor in what makes it such a bad job - delusional nut case fans with completely unrealistic expectations.
 
This is my ranking. 8-13 are fairly interchangeable.

Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Wisconsin
Michigan St
Iowa

****braska

Illinois
Maryland
Purdue
Minnesota
NW
Indiana
Rutgers
I’d move Minnesota above Nebraska, but otherwise I agree.
 
I don't think Northwestern is better. Fitzgerald has done an amazing job there, and I think they are a better football team right now, but it would not surprise me to see them regress to the mean when he's done, so I don't think the program is better overall. It's always seemed like a niche program to me, but maybe that's just my perception, going back to Barnett taking them to the Rose Bowl as a Cinderella story, back in the day.
but a lot less job pressure at NW than most other B1G schools
 
Minnesota has only won 10 games twice in the past 100 years.
I’m not comparing the historical success of the programs. If we were doing that, Nebraska would be much, much higher. If I’m an up and coming head coach who has the opportunity to coach at Minnesota or Nebraska, I’d choose Minnesota. Location alone makes it about a bajillion times better. Better school. Better location. Fewer delusional dipshits to deal with. Everything else is basically equal.
 
not better program, but better job (all other factors being equal) -- which is what I thought the discussion was about
This is what the issue really is.

Nebraska fired Solich for winning 9 games. They have fired everyone since for not reaching the expectations of the fans and the boosters even when those expectations are completely unrealistic.

Win 8-9 games at Northwestern and you don't have to buy breakfast for a year. Do it a couple times and they are hoping like crazy that you don't leave for another job. Do that in Lincoln and they think you should win 10 games the next year.

Nub fans still operate under the assumption that they are an elite program. Yes they still fill the stadium (and those of their opponents) and buy lots of merchandise and donate lots of money but the days of that program being elite are long gone.

They are in the middle of a wasteland and the elite recruits aren't interested. If you are willing to go someplace where the winter is brutal and you are good enough to be elite then you go to Ohio State or Notre Dame or someplace else where you can win and win now.

They are no longer a place where the kids from California and Texas and Louisiana and Florida or Georgia want to go. Their name hasn't meant anything in these kids lifetimes.

All the schools who are recruiting against them have to do is point out how many of their recruits transfer out.

The last few times they have had a coaching opening the top candidates, the guys looking for elite jobs have not been interested.

Frosty only went there because he has the history there, otherwise he wouldn't be there either.

When he gets fired they will again aim high and end up trying to justify a big fallback hire who they have to overpay to go there.
 
I want Scott Frost as coach for life.

My fear is the application of the 'Even a broken clock is right twice a day' principle. You keep putting people through that job one of them is going to have at least mild success. I don't want that for them, not at all. Frosty guarantees their continued irrelevance.
 
This is what the issue really is.

****braska fired Solich for winning 9 games. They have fired everyone since for not reaching the expectations of the fans and the boosters even when those expectations are completely unrealistic.

Win 8-9 games at Northwestern and you don't have to buy breakfast for a year. Do it a couple times and they are hoping like crazy that you don't leave for another job. Do that in Lincoln and they think you should win 10 games the next year.

Nub fans still operate under the assumption that they are an elite program. Yes they still fill the stadium (and those of their opponents) and buy lots of merchandise and donate lots of money but the days of that program being elite are long gone.

They are in the middle of a wasteland and the elite recruits aren't interested. If you are willing to go someplace where the winter is brutal and you are good enough to be elite then you go to Ohio State or Notre Dame or someplace else where you can win and win now.

They are no longer a place where the kids from California and Texas and Louisiana and Florida or Georgia want to go. Their name hasn't meant anything in these kids lifetimes.

All the schools who are recruiting against them have to do is point out how many of their recruits transfer out.

The last few times they have had a coaching opening the top candidates, the guys looking for elite jobs have not been interested.

Frosty only went there because he has the history there, otherwise he wouldn't be there either.

When he gets fired they will again aim high and end up trying to justify a big fallback hire who they have to overpay to go there.
The coaching search will be brutal for the nubs, entertaining for the rest of us.
 
OU gets to cream the corn this weekend then it's Michigan State next week.

I drove through Nebraska to Iowa and back very recently. Nothing to see there maybe except a nice six lane concrete high way between Lincoln and Omaha.
 
I want Scott Frost as coach for life.

My fear is the application of the 'Even a broken clock is right twice a day' principle. You keep putting people through that job one of them is going to have at least mild success. I don't want that for them, not at all. Frosty guarantees their continued irrelevance.
At this point I don't think it matters who the coach is, Saban couldn't fix it.

The program itself is broken. Recruits don't want to go there and the ones who do don't want to stay there.

They are so tied into their "traditions" that a coach can't do what he has to do to get a new functioning start..

They are in a time warp and don't understand that this is a new era. Any coach they hire is going to have to be willing to play their game and pretend like he is living in an era of Bob Devany or Tom Osborne.
 
Wisconsin and Iowa and maybe even Minnesota are all better jobs in their own division. They all have roughly the same resources to pay a coach, and are all in better locations. The “bat **** crazy fan base” factor isn’t nearly as bad in those places, either.
Do Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota fans clap for their opponent at the end of a game?
 
High expectations are great if they’re attainable but they make for an awful job if they are completely unrealistic.

Nebraska has the upside of Indiana and Purdue with the fan and admin expectations of Ohio State. Northwestern has the upside of Wisconsin and the fan and admin expectations of Indiana and Purdue.
 
High expectations are great if they’re attainable but they make for an awful job if they are completely unrealistic.

****braska has the upside of Indiana and Purdue with the fan and admin expectations of Ohio State. Northwestern has the upside of Wisconsin and the fan and admin expectations of Indiana and Purdue.
Northwestern was bad for so long that their fans appreciate any success.

Nebraska was good for long enough that their fans can't deal with their ongoing failure.
 
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