When someone is defending Bret Bielema and you start to mull it over because some of the other names are Lane Kiffin, Mark Helfrich, and Butch Jones
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You've got a point. Here's CU's F/+ rating going back to 2008.
2008 - Hawk - 84
2009 - Hawk - 77
2010 - Hawk - 73
2011 - Embree - 103
2012 - Embree - 122
2013 - MM - 95
2014 - MM - 83
2015 - MM - 94
2016 - MM - 20
2017 - MM - 88
2018 - MM - 82
With the exception of the 2012 disaster and the 2016 miracle, we've been consistently terrible before and with Mike MacIntyre.
The 2012 Buffs finished 1-11 and had a point differential of -338 that is a tad bit over 4 tds per game. In 2018 we finished 5-7 and had a point differential of -2. I think we were so bad in 2011 and 2012 it is hard to comprehend, but we are a much different team and if Chev wasn't so bad as an OC (or maybe if we play USC later in the year) we are bowling right now.
It is incredibly impressive, and highly irritating, how ADRG has been able to plug up just about all the leaks. Almost nothing comes out of that AD, and as soon as something slip, it gets sealed up almost immediately.
Jeric
Club Member
Still hoping for Twitter follows and flight trackers and whatnot to work their magic. I wouldn't be surprised if they were locking down that sort of stuff too, though.
Howell doesn't know any more than Jizla. Both in the dark and throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks. At least I don't think Howell has any hidden CU-hating agenda like the other POS I reference.
The step forward this program made under MacIntyre, relative to the 2 years prior to him coming here is night and day. That doesn't mean it's good enough by any stretch (obviously), but anyone should be able to use the eye test to realize the program is far more attractive and in a much better place now than when MM got here. I wish we could just put this non-argument to bed, thank Mac for the work he did to get CU to this point, and move on.
Actually, Howell had some insight on Matt Wells of Utah State which was some unique insight. He is not throwing crap against the wall at all. He has been pretty measured all season.
I hadn't noticed that article. Could you link it or fill me in on what was said about Wells? He's not a viable candidate is he?
It was a postgame video he did with Adam after the game in Berkeley.
Basically, he talked to some sources around Utah State and there seems to be people who think the OC is the real star there. A lot like the Hawkins/Petersen dynamic at Boise State.
I think the key info here is "sources at Utah State" because I don't think he gets anything from CU. That said, I don't have any level of hatred for Howell. Definitely not like the othe POS. He has to write something, I suppose.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind giving Yost a raise and bringing him in here as OC.
Yes, but that insight came from beat reporters in Utah, not the CU AD.
Agreed. It’s kind of maddening, because we have nothing to sink our teeth into yet.
At the same time, it makes me hopeful that RG essentially has his guy and is just waiting for all the necessary dominoes to fall before it becomes an official announcement.
I have faith that when Rick George says he is going to bring in a difference maker that he both means what he says and he knows what we need. I’m totally impressed with the professionalism this search appears to have taken on. Nothing is getting out of the AD from what I can see.
BlackNGold
Club Member
Is it far better because of Mike MacIntyre or because of Rick George? I maintain it is because of the things that Rick George has put into place.
He actually talked to many players before and throughout the season.
He tended to actually hold MM for stuff he said, which was much closer to throwing crap against the wall.
The CU AD has decided to be an insular AD, so not much external reporters can do.
As I said, Howell has been pretty measured all season, except when making declarations about MM's job being in jeopardy. Given that Renck got that from a source as well, it sure seems like he got that from someone with some knowledge.
The CU AD would be wise to examine media relations with the next HC.
Rick George has had plenty to do with where the program is today, but this just sounds like you giving MM all the blame for the bad over the last 6 years and non of the credit for the good. That's simply not the way it works when you're looking at things objectively.
Right - and recruiting IS better. It isn't good enough, but it is better. Mac put Witherspoon, Thompson, Awuzie, Lindsay, Oliver and Tupou into the NFL. We have a Heisman quality WR on the roster and some good pieces defensively.
Is there a position that is worse now than when MM arrived? OL is the obvious candidate, but even that group can't possibly be as horrid as 2011/2012
hawg1
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Add Thamel.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
He started with two wins, he ended with two wins.
Take your BS out of here. We were regularly blown out in first halfs
If all you look at is wins and losses to assess the situation, then I don't know what to tell you.