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Official CU vs Delaware Game Thread

Getting ahead of ourselves??
If Staub was 'lights out', JuJu got his reps and Salter sat, would Salter be eligible for a RS year? A pressing question.
No. He already used his RS at Liberty. The worse thing is, if he would have went to Cuse, he was facing the same issue. We say he should have went to Auburn but even Hugh Freeze went a different route and took an unpolished talented Jackson Arnold over what he already knew well. The facts is, Salter just wasn't as good as we hoped he was.

No, a graduate transfer cannot go to any school during the season without restriction; they must adhere to sport-specific transfer windows, though they are exempt from the traditional "no-contact" period after the season ends and must be eligible according to NCAA rules. To transfer, a graduate student must apply for admission to their chosen school, meet the academic requirements for graduate study, and have a remaining year of athletic eligibility.
 
You never know when an athlete will experience a breakthrough. Staub's transformation is a perfect example—we had no way of predicting it would happen until it actually occurred. Between my sophomore and junior years, I underwent a remarkable physical development. I achieved a 10.30-second 100-meter dash from a standing start, recorded a 35-inch vertical leap, ran a hand-timed 4.5-second 40-yard dash, and reached a 385-pound squat with a 245-pound power clean.

Just six months prior, my performance metrics told a completely different story. I was squatting only 135 pounds while focusing primarily on plyometric box work without additional weight to refine my technique. My 40-yard dash time was 5.0 seconds, my vertical leap measured just 24 inches, and during training sessions, I was working alongside female athletes who weren't even among the stronger members of their group.

The transformation demonstrates how unpredictable and dramatic athletic development can be when proper training protocols align with natural physical maturation.
 
I think we need to pump the brakes on Staub a little bit. Hopefully he continues to play well against some of the better teams on the schedule. But if he doesn’t, the kid has still been a solid member of the program. At a minimum, Staub has shown the other QBs and the entire roster that if you perform, you play.
Maybe he's shown KS what an audible by hand gesture looks like and why you'd want to call one.
 
I did feel bad for him when he was getting booed at the end of his last possession.
Yea... that was a rough outing for him. He was obviously playing hero ball - or terribly ****ing up the read - instead of running the offense on his almost fumble play. But it sucks he got booed. I can't recall a QB getting hated on by the fanbase this quick.
 
If Salter leaves, does he still get his money?
Where is Salter going? The portal is closed and we are in week 3 of the season.

Yea... that was a rough outing for him. He was obviously playing hero ball - or terribly ****ing up the read - instead of running the offense on his almost fumble play. But it sucks he got booed. I can't recall a QB getting hated on by the fanbase this quick.
It was a poor decision to put Salter back in the game in the 4th quarter mop up duty after he'd been sitting for 2+ hours. Not just a bad thing to do with him, but why not keep getting Staub as many live reps as possible at that point?
 
You never know when an athlete will experience a breakthrough. Staub's transformation is a perfect example—we had no way of predicting it would happen until it actually occurred. Between my sophomore and junior years, I underwent a remarkable physical development. I achieved a 10.30-second 100-meter dash from a standing start, recorded a 35-inch vertical leap, ran a hand-timed 4.5-second 40-yard dash, and reached a 385-pound squat with a 245-pound power clean.

Just six months prior, my performance metrics told a completely different story. I was squatting only 135 pounds while focusing primarily on plyometric box work without additional weight to refine my technique. My 40-yard dash time was 5.0 seconds, my vertical leap measured just 24 inches, and during training sessions, I was working alongside female athletes who weren't even among the stronger members of their group.

The transformation demonstrates how unpredictable and dramatic athletic development can be when proper training protocols align with natural physical maturation.
Do you have any eligibility left? Asking for a friend.
 
Why are 4 / 5 OL blocking absolutely no one in this image?
LOL.

And yet there was a pocket to step up into and even run forward through.

TV seems to like showing close ups of KS scanning the D prior to the snap. I increasingly feel like he’s not taking in any important information.
 
We gonna stop feeling bad for guys. This happens every year at CU at other positions. This exact situation happened at Baylor. They played Dequan Finn to be their starter, he flopped, they went to Sawyer Robertson and never looked back.
My only concern is that CU has never had a great donor culture. So hopefully it doesn't turn anyone off if they were tapped for NIL and then the guy doesn't see the field.
 
I keep hearing one of the DNVR guys talking about how KS didn’t do anything to deserve being demoted, as he moved the O down for scores on his two drives against Delaware.

I think this overlooks the fact that we struggled to move the ball with KS in both games. We were barely getting first downs. Didn’t KS have to do a QB sneak on 4th at midfield against Delaware that we barely got, after having failed on the 3rd down sneak?

There was nothing explosive within the offensive under KS, only some scramble drill, hero-ball success.

I think our running game also improves markedly when we are able to throw downfield. Thankfully, we’ll get a chance to see this weekend.
 
I keep hearing one of the DNVR guys talking about how KS didn’t do anything to deserve being demoted, as he moved the O down for scores on his two drives against Delaware.
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I think our running game also improves markedly when we are able to throw downfield. Thankfully, we’ll get a chance to see this weekend.
Yes, I picked up on this same thing listening to DNVR. I thought it was a terrible take.

I believe the same guy was also saying that the running game improves when Salter is in the game, which I also don't see. There were successful running plays with each QB in the game. Obviously we don't get Salter's rushing from anyone else, but Salter doesn't really seem all that eager to turn it into a weapon either. He forces passes that he can't hit when easy runs for necessary yardage are easily available.

I think Salter has some strong tools and I could see us getting to six wins with him at QB if a lot of other stuff also worked out. I don't see him being a guy who takes initiative to get the most out of this team. His best drives have felt long, painstaking, and difficult. Staub played with conviction form the jump and finally gave our offense some verticality. I can see the argument that Salter didn't do anything to "lose" the job per se, but I think Staub took it from him, at least for the time being. The audibles tell us even more about him than his play. I kind of wonder if a player might want to do that in a way that addresses Prime's obvious timeout management issues?

DNVR was also being insistent that this game was basically meaningless, Delaware wasn't a real opponent, the team treated it like a scrimmage, etc., so for those reasons, we shouldn't put a lot of value on Staub's performance. That's maybe true-- will Staub be able to do stuff like this on Friday night? (I wager the answer is mostly yes) --but I certainly think we can value it in relation to Salter's performance against the same lowly team. And uh, Staub was definitely better. Our receivers are way too good to ignore a coherent downfield passing game in favor of Salter's athleticism.

It's almost like the DNVR guys were engaging in a sort of sunken cost fallacy w/ Kaidon. I didn't listen much before the season, but some of their perspectives only makes sense to me under the context that they maybe don't want to admit their overzealous and optimistic hopes for Kaidon were ill-placed? They kind of strike me as overly optimistic and it's easy to imagine them overhyping Salter.

Oh well. There's much for this team to learn, and for us to learn about them. But ultimately, seasons aren't that many games. There's not a lot of time to find yourself. Staub is the only qb out there who has had swagger and leadership, and he's easily the best passer (right now). He deserves the start. There is something intangible that Salter seems to be missing. Staub has shown it twice now, in how he has been able to meet the moment.
 
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Yes, I picked up on this same thing listening to DNVR. I thought it was a terrible take.

I believe the same guy was also saying that the running game improves when Salter is in the game, which I also don't see. There were successful running plays with each QB in the game. Obviously we don't get Salter's rushing from anyone else, but Salter doesn't really seem all that eager to turn it into a weapon either. He forces passes that he can't hit when easy runs for necessary yardage are easily available.

I think Salter has some strong tools and I could see us getting to six wins with him at QB if a lot of other stuff also worked out. I don't see him being a guy who takes initiative to get the most out of this team. His best drives have felt long, painstaking, and difficult. Staub played with conviction form the jump and finally gave our offense some verticality. I can see the argument that Salter didn't do anything to "lose" the job per se, but I think Staub took it from him, at least for the time being. The audibles tell us even more about him than his play. I kind of wonder if a player might want to do that in a way that addresses Prime's obvious timeout management issues?

DNVR was also being insistent that this game was basically meaningless, Delaware wasn't a real opponent, the team treated it like a scrimmage, etc., so for those reasons, we shouldn't put a lot of value on Staub's performance. That's maybe true-- will Staub be able to do stuff like this on Friday night? (I wager the answer is mostly yes) --but I certainly think we can value it in relation to Salter's performance against the same lowly team. And uh, Staub was definitely better. Our receivers are way too good to ignore a coherent downfield passing game in favor of Salter's athleticism.

It's almost like the DNVR guys were engaging in a sort of sunken cost fallacy w/ Kaidon. I didn't listen much before the season, but some of their perspectives only makes sense to me under the context that they maybe don't want to admit their overzealous and optimistic hopes for Kaidon were ill-placed? They kind of strike me as overly optimistic and it's easy to imagine them overhyping Salter.

Oh well. There's much for this team to learn, and for us to learn about them. But ultimately, seasons aren't that many games. There's not a lot of time to find yourself. Staub is the only qb out there who has had swagger and leadership, and he's easily the best passer (right now). He deserves the start. There is something intangible that Salter seems to be missing. Staub has shown it twice now, in how he has been able to meet the moment.
Say what they want about Delaware as an opponent, but our Buffs were looking at a 10-7 game at halftime if Staub hadn't come in and made a play.

Edit: And our Buffs only scored in the second half when Staub was under center.
 
Say what they want about Delaware as an opponent, but our Buffs were looking at a 10-7 game at halftime if Staub hadn't come in and made a play.

Edit: And our Buffs only scored in the second half when Staub was under center.
yup. it doesn't leave me all hopeful for the conference slate yet.

staub made it go. we need it to continue.
 
I think the 10-7 when Staub entered is being put all on Salter by some.

That requires ignoring that the Julian had 2 drives for zero points in right after Salter.

The outcome of Salter's first two drives was exceptional. Burned 10 minutes of clock, moved 130 yards, and put up 10 points. It wasn't perfect, but asking for much more than that is getting to the point of being greedy.

YMMV, but the drives at the end of the game were meaningless to me. Dude had been on the bench for 2+ hours at that point.
 
Yes, I picked up on this same thing listening to DNVR. I thought it was a terrible take.

I believe the same guy was also saying that the running game improves when Salter is in the game, which I also don't see. There were successful running plays with each QB in the game. Obviously we don't get Salter's rushing from anyone else, but Salter doesn't really seem all that eager to turn it into a weapon either. He forces passes that he can't hit when easy runs for necessary yardage are easily available.

I think Salter has some strong tools and I could see us getting to six wins with him at QB if a lot of other stuff also worked out. I don't see him being a guy who takes initiative to get the most out of this team. His best drives have felt long, painstaking, and difficult. Staub played with conviction form the jump and finally gave our offense some verticality. I can see the argument that Salter didn't do anything to "lose" the job per se, but I think Staub took it from him, at least for the time being. The audibles tell us even more about him than his play. I kind of wonder if a player might want to do that in a way that addresses Prime's obvious timeout management issues?

DNVR was also being insistent that this game was basically meaningless, Delaware wasn't a real opponent, the team treated it like a scrimmage, etc., so for those reasons, we shouldn't put a lot of value on Staub's performance. That's maybe true-- will Staub be able to do stuff like this on Friday night? (I wager the answer is mostly yes) --but I certainly think we can value it in relation to Salter's performance against the same lowly team. And uh, Staub was definitely better. Our receivers are way too good to ignore a coherent downfield passing game in favor of Salter's athleticism.

It's almost like the DNVR guys were engaging in a sort of sunken cost fallacy w/ Kaidon. I didn't listen much before the season, but some of their perspectives only makes sense to me under the context that they maybe don't want to admit their overzealous and optimistic hopes for Kaidon were ill-placed? They kind of strike me as overly optimistic and it's easy to imagine them overhyping Salter.

Oh well. There's much for this team to learn, and for us to learn about them. But ultimately, seasons aren't that many games. There's not a lot of time to find yourself. Staub is the only qb out there who has had swagger and leadership, and he's easily the best passer (right now). He deserves the start. There is something intangible that Salter seems to be missing. Staub has shown it twice now, in how he has been able to meet the moment.
Watching the GT game, I only saw yards left on the field with Salter on critical downs. Not seeing open receivers, not delivering the ball with accuracy when he did, not running for first downs when they were available. Just lost opportunity.

And then I saw some of that again against Delaware. Did Salter move the ball with a series of short passes in the opening drive? Sure. Did he look like a QB that could spread the field in order to create space for athletes to excel? Not in my inexpert opinion.

I get that we're collectively unhappy with our OC's play-calling and downfield blocking, but when Salter is in, I don't feel particularly hopeful for our offense. I hope that Staub is able to change that.
 
I keep hearing one of the DNVR guys talking about how KS didn’t do anything to deserve being demoted, as he moved the O down for scores on his two drives against Delaware.

I think this overlooks the fact that we struggled to move the ball with KS in both games. We were barely getting first downs. Didn’t KS have to do a QB sneak on 4th at midfield against Delaware that we barely got, after having failed on the 3rd down sneak?
It's easy to skew the results on vibes either way.

One of Staub's drives was resurrected by the leaping penalty on a FG attempt.
 
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