Plus, awkward phrasing.
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Official Nicholls Colonels (0-2) @ Colorado Buffaloes(2-1) Game Day Thread
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That literally was the day Nebraska ceased to matter. Hopefully the same for the Ducks. I'm way tired of that team.
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GoBuffs08
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CU gave up 220 yards rushing to CSU. What about that stat is hyperbole. As to a source that has Sefo rated highly I can only assume that they did not watch any of the games and just saw a stat line. Just watching games yesterday I would take the QB from the following teams over Sefo. UCLA, USC, Utah, Cal, Stanford, Solomon from UA (Randal is sick as a runner), and I still think Adams and Locke from Oregon are better than Sefo.
College football focus is an independent, advanced stats group. Their ratings are based on some pretty high level analysis. For what it's worth
At some point people will realize total yards is irrelevant. A 4.4 YPC isn't abusing a defense. 218 on 49 carries. Meh.
As for the source, I suggest you go and read up on how Pro Football Focus grades players. I'm sure you won't, but you should.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
GoBuffs08
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Pro Football Focus- First its a paysite so most everything is behind the pay wall. But that is great that they give someone a + if they throw a pass that is dropped. Without going into detail I didn't see how they grade a play where the QB completes a pass for 4 yards instead of throwing it to the wide open player 20 yards down field for an easy TD.
They did pick Utah to finish 5th in the South and Oregon to win the North. So that is nice.
5. Utah Utes
Offensive snaps lost: 3,528 (32.2 percent)
Defensive snaps lost: 3,918 (35.7 percent)
The Utes don’t have a particularly bad roster, with solid players on offense like offensive tackle J.J. Dielman (85.7) and wide receiver Kenneth Scott (75.5) to go along with quarterback Travis Wilson (74.9). They just find themselves in a tough conference and even tougher division. Defensively, edge rusher Hunter Dimick (78.9), linebacker Jared Norris (78.8) and interior defensive lineman Lowell Lotulelei (78.6) have the potential to be difference makers, However, with the level of opposition around them, the Utes likely find themselves in the role of late-season spoiler as opposed to conference challenger.
They did pick Utah to finish 5th in the South and Oregon to win the North. So that is nice.
5. Utah Utes
Offensive snaps lost: 3,528 (32.2 percent)
Defensive snaps lost: 3,918 (35.7 percent)
The Utes don’t have a particularly bad roster, with solid players on offense like offensive tackle J.J. Dielman (85.7) and wide receiver Kenneth Scott (75.5) to go along with quarterback Travis Wilson (74.9). They just find themselves in a tough conference and even tougher division. Defensively, edge rusher Hunter Dimick (78.9), linebacker Jared Norris (78.8) and interior defensive lineman Lowell Lotulelei (78.6) have the potential to be difference makers, However, with the level of opposition around them, the Utes likely find themselves in the role of late-season spoiler as opposed to conference challenger.
So I assume you're paid to evaluate players?
Snow made a thread on it. Go look at it. They release the QB rankings weekly on Twitter for free.
Preseason rankings and in-season rankings are completely different. The in-season rankings are based off of what happened, pre-season is using past statistics to predict trends for the following year. Using one prediction is reaching for straws to try and discredit them.
Snow made a thread on it. Go look at it. They release the QB rankings weekly on Twitter for free.
Preseason rankings and in-season rankings are completely different. The in-season rankings are based off of what happened, pre-season is using past statistics to predict trends for the following year. Using one prediction is reaching for straws to try and discredit them.
White_Rabbit
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Where do you rank Sefo in terms of P12 QBs tini?
Better than any Oregon QB by a good amount, which is the stem of this discussion.
White_Rabbit
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You're vehemently defending a site that has Sefo at #2, yet you're avoiding answering my simple question. If you don't even agree with the website yourself, which is my suspicion, then what are you defending?
OUBuff
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Sounds a lot like what you spouted prior to the Hawaii game... see where that got us.
Because we've got people here who say he's at the bottom of the barrel, but there's a site that actually knows what is going on when evaluating a player having them near the top. I'd put him in the top 4, but I think Goff is clearly the class of the conference. I'm not avoiding it, just keeping the discussion on the root of the argument, which is he claim that Oregon has far superior QB's.
Anything I say, or you say, or anyone else says has no bearing on the outcome. And I've been saying Helfrich isn't a good coach and having a MM at QB saved his ass. Good coaches don't get beat by 42 points at home when you're coming off of a national title run. Oregon is not a healthy team right now. No defense and no QB, that makes for a vulnerable team.
GoBuffs08
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If by paid to evaluate players you mean drink about 8 coors lights during the game and scream that Sefo didn't throw to the wide open guy in the middle of the field again than yes I'm paid to evaluate players.
Not discrediting at all. Just pointing out again that they often get things wrong. You have a habit of telling everyone how the stats say one thing or another and there can be no disagreement with your view. All I know is what I've watched out of Sefo the last 4 weeks and nothing he has done makes me want him as my starting QB over at least 6 other Pac 12 QB's.
Locking the thread for too much tini
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