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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

Jens1893 said:
AAU or not doesn’t matter anymore at this point.

The only thing that matters here is your football program, how committed you are to it, the fan support etc.
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We don't know that.

It doesn't matter to the SEC, Disney, sportswriters, advertisers and fans.

The folks ultimately in charge are university presidents - and 22/26 who represent B1G and P12 interests prioritized AAU membership & ARWU rank in all previous realignments.
 
Bill Cody said:
My only complaint, and I’ll continue to stand by this, is I’m sick of seeing CU suck at football. If this happens, we might end up being good in the B1G, but damn it’s gonna take a long time. The B1G is tied for the deepest conference in the country IMO, and we will get embarrassed unless and until our university decides that it wants to win. It will be noticeable harder than the PAC.

It will be amazing to watch these games, and travel throughout the conference, but my liver might not be able to survive it.
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At least the money would be there to retire Dorrell.
 
Bill Cody said:
My only complaint, and I’ll continue to stand by this, is I’m sick of seeing CU suck at football. If this happens, we might end up being good in the B1G, but damn it’s gonna take a long time. The B1G is tied for the deepest conference in the country IMO, and we will get embarrassed unless and until our university decides that it wants to win. It will be noticeable harder than the PAC.

It will be amazing to watch these games, and travel throughout the conference, but my liver might not be able to survive it.
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I don’t really agree. I think it’s fairly comparable to the Pac 12 except for the very top where tOSU is clearly on another level at the moment.
 
Jens1893 said:
I am sick of it, too, but I simply don’t have the feeling that CU is committed to having a good football program and willing to undertake the necessary steps as frustrating as it is. Hiring Dorrell made that clear to me.

If we want to win games we need to join the Mountain West.
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Exactly.
 
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The Alabaster Yak said:
I don’t really agree. I think it’s fairly comparable to the Pac 12 except for the very top where tOSU is clearly on another level at the moment.
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It’s not my man. W-L records and conference bowl records, sure. But I’m telling you, our program is light years away from playing B1G football. Wait until you see Minnesota roll into Folsom this year. They are going to look like giants compared to us.
 
Bill Cody said:
My only complaint, and I’ll continue to stand by this, is I’m sick of seeing CU suck at football. If this happens, we might end up being good in the B1G, but damn it’s gonna take a long time. The B1G is tied for the deepest conference in the country IMO, and we will get embarrassed unless and until our university decides that it wants to win. It will be noticeable harder than the PAC.

It will be amazing to watch these games, and travel throughout the conference, but my liver might not be able to survive it.
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We'd be in the west. Nebraska sucks. Minnesota we'll learn a lot about in 2 months. Illinois we can beat. Northwestern's a lot like we are program wise. They've won the west the last two years but followed that up with a couple losing seasons. All the respect in the world for Pat Fitzgerald as a football coach but they have a ceiling. Iowa and Wisconsin are damn good but we'd compete in that division.
 
Duff Man said:
Why play ball with the SEC and/or ACC mutation? You only go to 24 to never have to play anyone else in football, so why would the other conferences be okay with playing them in basketball? They could tell them to get ****ed.
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You might not go out of conference. If you do, you may choose to do that with local interest games like KU playing KSU in non-con, CU playing CSU as warmups ahead of conference play. I think it will be just football where only the super conference teams can be competitive for a national championship.
 
ahoelsken said:
We'd be in the west. ****braska sucks. Minnesota we'll learn a lot about in 2 months. Illinois we can beat. Northwestern's a lot like we are program wise. They've won the west the last two years but followed that up with a couple losing seasons. All the respect in the world for Pat Fitzgerald as a football coach but they have a ceiling. Iowa and Wisconsin are damn good but we'd compete in that division.
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We will see, but I don’t think so. Nebraska sucks, but (as much as I loved it) let’s also remember how we’ve beat them the last few times. They sucked in the B1G then too.
 
Buffnik said:
We don't know that.

It doesn't matter to the SEC, Disney, sportswriters, advertisers and fans.

The folks ultimately in charge are university presidents - and 22/26 who represent B1G and P12 interests prioritized AAU membership & ARWU rank in all previous realignments.
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I think they’ll fall in line when they see the numbers.
 
Duff Man said:
You guys don't have to agree with me, but a well-funded CU football program would make noise nationally IMO.
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100% if it’s run correctly. We would find out really quick if any complaints about leadership have legitimacy, or if we have always just been underfunded.

Personally, I’d love to see the latter be correct.
 
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Bill Cody said:
100% if it’s run correctly. We would find out really quick if any complaints about leadership have legitimacy, or if we have always just been underfunded.
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I with George had been in a position to make a coaching hire and had not inherited MacIntyre when when the P12 briefly had the money as the other conference’s TV contracts hadn’t kicked in.

I still don’t know what they were thinking when they hired Dorrell.
 
Bill Cody said:
We will see, but I don’t think so. ****braska sucks, but (as much as I loved it) let’s also remember how we’ve beat them the last few times. They sucked in the B1G then too.
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We'll see. The BuckeyeScoop report kind of feels like 2011 all over again. Kevin Warren tries for his own superconference only to have the dipshits on the west coast puss out while CU bolts. The B1G grabs ISU as #16 and we roll.

I'm good with it-more money, more stability, and it'd be great to have the tradition involved with the Nebraska rivalry back as a kid who grew up with it.
 
Jens1893 said:
I think they’ll fall in line when they see the numbers.
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Not sure how it would change the numbers. Does ASU do significantly more for you than UA? The AAUs in the Pac-12 are also the most valuable other than that.

In the past, this rationale drove the B1G to choose Rutgers over Syracuse to tap the NYC metro. Didn't hurt revenue.
 
Jens1893 said:
I with George had been in a position to make a coaching hire and had not inherited MacIntyre when when the P12 briefly had the money as the other conference’s TV contracts hadn’t kicked in.

I still don’t know what they were thinking when they hired Dorrell.
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The timing of the hiring really screwed things up. There was a lot to like out what we saw last year, but recruiting is not helping the outlook.
 
Buffnik said:
Not sure how it would change the numbers. Does ASU do significantly more for you than UA? The AAUs in the Pac-12 are also the most valuable other than that.

In the past, this rationale drove the B1G to choose Rutgers over Syracuse to tap the NYC metro. Didn't hurt revenue.
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Doesn't Utah have to be involved in this as well? SLC's not a bad market to grab, and Utah would sell really well in that league. Put them in the west and imagine the fun that Utah-Wisconsin could be every year.
 
skibum said:
Advantages
1 Money
2 Get to beat NU every year

Disadvantages:
1. No games in good recruiting grounds
2. ****ty road trips

If you start from the premise that our ceiling is playing in the conference championship game once a decade, the extra money would probably be enough to overcome the distant recruiting grounds.
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You forgot the 3rd advantage-->us learning not to play like a bunch of pansies in cold, rainy or even snowy weather.

Admittedly not that high of a priority, but still . . .
 
ahoelsken said:
Doesn't Utah have to be involved in this as well? SLC's not a bad market to grab, and Utah would sell really well in that league. Put them in the west and imagine the fun that Utah-Wisconsin could be every year.
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Utah is AAU.

Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Utah and Colorado from the Pac-12. Only ASU, OSU and WSU aren't.

Our Members | Association of American Universities (AAU)

AAU includes 65 distinguished public and private research universities dedicated to improving human life through education, research, and discovery.
www.aau.edu www.aau.edu
 
And if you wanted to get real crazy with an NFL type scheduling setup, go all the way to 30 or 32.

24 I mentioned before plus: Pitt, UVA, UNC, Duke, GA Tech and Iowa State are all AAU. That's 30.

Notre Dame and someone else can get you to 32.
 
Buffnik said:
And if you wanted to get real crazy with an NFL type scheduling setup, go all the way to 30 or 32.

24 I mentioned before plus: Pitt, UVA, UNC, Duke, GA Tech and Iowa State are all AAU. That's 30.

Notre Dame and someone else can get you to 32.
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32 is pretty easy if you combine the current members of the B1G and PAC and add schools like Tech, KU, ND, WVU, OSU and maybe TCU.

I purposely left Baylor out, but I have this awful feeling that they’ll find a landing spot.
 
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