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It likely won't work, but CSU was a legitimate candidate when they were exploring expansion. But regardless, that's certainly the worst case. CSU sharing the PAC with us is by no means worst case. As mentioned the other day, I personally hope the PAC persists with its current membership forever, but wouldn't mind some combo of CSU/ BYU/ BSU if ever it expanded.
Yeah I couldn't disagree more with what you are saying. CSU joining the Pac-12 is worst case scenario. It reduces payouts to current members, frustrated those top tier programs in the conference to push for uneven revenue sharing and dilutes the current TV market. On the other hand, if CSU joins the Big-12 we gain an in state OOC P5 matchup every year, they reduce the payouts to current Big-12 members, and then we get to see all the **** they have to deal with in being in a Big-12 south based conference.
We're looking at this from different starting points then. I thought it was an assumed part of the hypothetical that neither conference would expand unless it was somehow profitable in their future setup.
Well that eliminates every school other than BYU.
In the current setup, absolutely. And as far as we can currently tell, likely in the future as well.
Yeah, but if they were in the Big 12, it would be a very meaningful game
Going to 16 could increase the pot, though.
I think several people on here have suggested UNLV before. I hope we'd never take Houston (as a fan; I'm not talking like a TV exec). Regional identity/ geographically sensible rivalries is what makes college football great, historically.
I've said many times that I favor the idea of adding UH to the Pac12 (both for selfish and unselfish reasons). And I know there has been some water under the bridge since the big Texas-Houston spat in 2001, but I if we add Houston, I think you are closing the door to adding Texas. Texas does not want to elevate the stature of UH, to the point where they are on equal footing for recruiting the Houston area. I don't think Texas and Houston will be part of any package deal.
See that sounds awful to me.
If they were in the PAC, it would be a meaningful game as well.
I agree, but the Cali mafia isn't letting SDSU or any other California school in, so the only expansion is east. Heck, they probably won't allow UNLV because they think they already own vegas. BYU is a non-starter. Last time I checked CU is the eastern most school so they will be stuck with any new members. God I miss the Big 8 more and more.
I agree.
And would free up a OOC game.
I don't miss the Big 8 as a whole - I think we really do fit in a western conference - but I do miss the Nebraska game/ having an actual annual rivalry game that meant something.
gag ... I'd actually prefer ....gag ...cough ...gah ....Nebraska in the Pac with CU.
Exactly.
I mean, sure, but that doesn't negate the point. We could be winning 10 games a year right now and we still wouldn't have any truly meaningful rivalry game on the schedule, apart from whatever impact you think our current once every few years OOC rivalry games impact SOS.
Completely agree. As it stands now, I hate the CSU game because it's not beneficial to the Buffs at all. Either cut it off, or I'd be all for them joining a P5 conference.
As a fan (and not as a business executive), this is where I fall as well.
As a fan, I'll take them on the schedule every year as well. Two legitimate rivalries on the schedule every year would be a dream for CU.
Yes
