The offense in 2018, especially early on, protected him quite a bit by having him avoid having to make any real reads.
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The offense in 2018, especially early on, protected him quite a bit by having him avoid having to make any real reads.
And in that time he actually showed some progress. He was throwing fewer bad balls and the Montez I saw was actually being a little more patient and making some reads. As the season progressed he started to get more consistent pressure on him and after some hits he reverted back to his survival mode.
As the team fell apart so did any progress he was making in decision making and in technique.
I don't know if he would have ever become a technically sound QB, even with solid protection and better coaching. I would have liked to have seen him get that opportunity.
At this point he has been doing the same things for over four years. Bad habits are ingrained, attitudes and reactions are ingrained.
He is fun to watch but we better be ready for another season of great plays mixed in with shaking our heads.
He wasn't making reads, Mtn. That is the whole point. That early season offense allowed him NOT to go through progressions.
B.S.
Roper is a good QB coach, and so is Lindgren. He's had 3 good coaches, and his Dad played in the NFL. Let's not make excuses by blaming it on coaches.
Beat me to it. He had a coach who coached Eli Manning. His dad had a cup of coffee in the NFL. He’s attended the Manning camp two years in a row. Lack of coaching is a non factor.
Agree to disagree. I've gone back an looked at the games.
He certainly wasn't going Manning level but he was making reads both pre and post snap.
As the OL broke down and the play calling became more predictable his effectiveness dropped dramatically and we saw a return to him reacting, not acting, in some cases reacting to things that actually weren't happening.
I'm not going to let it slide that easy. He had a garbage OL and an offense that was brutally predictable. I remember game threads with guys calling the plays before they happened.
As I said I have no idea if Montez would be a different QB with different coaches and a different system. What i know is that he didn't advance under the ones he had, In many ways we can say the same things about Sefo.
Considering some of the hits that Montez has taken over the past three years I'm going to give him the benefit of a doubt.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
In the last 52 years the following QBs have won in Lincoln:
Anderson
Hagan
Hodge
Klatt
Montez
That's the list. I look forward to his progression this season under this coaching staff.
Anderson
Hagan
Hodge
Klatt
Montez
That's the list. I look forward to his progression this season under this coaching staff.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
It's not his fault he was the best QB in the team.
Don't be a dick.
ahoelsken
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If we were playing Iowa or NW, we'd probably be getting 1 or 2 points. Fusker beats big on themselves.
Weren’t you the one saying you were ready to fire summers and you were selling your tickets one quarter into the game?
but my eyes tell me he’s better than average
In your unbiased opinion, who's the best one on the list?
Mtn is on point regarding the performance of the O-line during Montez's tenure. It's been bad. Kap seems to have made some big strides with this group (albeit we've only seen them play once). Assuming the O-line continues to improve, we SHOULD see and expect improvement from Montez. But we are in year 5, and I think if we're going to see any improvement, it will be measured. Montez is who he is. Which, in my view, is above average. Not great, not bad, but really frustrating at times.
Wow, Tony Brown on that first TD run by Fontenot is the reason he scored. Really impressive
Actually, looking at their schedule, getting six wins may be difficult. They may only win 3-4 games.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
I always felt a little bad for Hodge that little dude took some serious hits in his starts. The obvious answer is Montez.
CULifer
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Tony Brown does quiet work, solid but not flashy.
hawg1
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I took the under. Key game is this weekend vas Ark
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Teams that put up more than 28 points in a single quarter in week 1:
#3 tOSU vs Florida Atlantic
Teams that put up 28 in a single Qtr
#17 UCF vs Florida A&M
Air Force vs Colgate
UNLV vs Southern Utah
Charlotte vs Gardner Webb
Maryland vs Howard
Bunches of more talented teams played weaker opponents, yet AFA distinguished itself against a long list of teams that didn’t do better.
What’s interesting is that AFA threw just 1 pass all game long. (Ground Force is more like it). The zoomies rushed for 423 yards, yet didn’t have any RBs with more than 80 yards.
Most of us have penciled in AFA as a win. And most also recognize AFA having the making of a trap game.
So go ahead and preach your gospel of Pomona having more D1 players than Colgate.
Whenever one of our future opponents flash 4TDs in a quarter, it’s attention getting.
Let’s agree on getting through NU week is a big deal.
But let’s not pretend CU’s porous defense has a cakewalk the following week.
Vs CSU, the Buffs D had more holes than a second hand dart board.
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Air Force will be a challenge after 2 emotional weeks.
Especially since they'll be coming off a bye.
Not a game CU should lose, but also not in the same ballpark as playing an FCS bodybag game. If AFA was playing any other P5 team expected to go around .500 this year, I'd have my eye on it as a potential upset.
Especially since they'll be coming off a bye.
Not a game CU should lose, but also not in the same ballpark as playing an FCS bodybag game. If AFA was playing any other P5 team expected to go around .500 this year, I'd have my eye on it as a potential upset.
I'd like to see Chev play a few of the other receivers. KD and Stanley were pretty quiet on Friday night. I thought we'd see more platooning, but it seems it was more of last year.
edit: maybe they did play more guys and I didn't notice them?
edit: maybe they did play more guys and I didn't notice them?
When you only throw the ball 20 times it becomes a challenge. I felt like everyone other than Brown should have been targeted more than he was -- including the TEs who should have gotten opportunities up the seam against the CSU scheme. There just weren't enough balls to go around. Heck, if we'd passed 5 more times I mostly feel that they should have all been Viska targets.
Not a QB expert at all but Montez throwing while running left is a hot mess! That play to Nixon was so frustrating! Either run with your Oline escort, or STOP, set your feet and drill Nixon on the sideline with a little comeback route. Minimum 12-15 yard running gain, or 15-25 yard pass play. Except result was airmail out of bounds and no 1st down, uggghh
Montez was used exactly like Jake Fromm is and had a respectable 94 QBR. I am hoping that is the floor and he can improve 3rd down efficiency and completion percentage and want him to throw about 25 balls per game with no interceptions. Jay Johnson is the best OC we have had in a long long time and is old school Colorado football minus the option.
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Star is a confusing position and it feels like Maddox would fit there best?
Perry at Safety
Put Taylor back on the end of the line, or he seems like a potential stud inside with Landman, especially on third down.
I was happy. Gave a lot of time to Montez and opened up some serious holes. Hambright was as advertised. Sherman has definitely taken his game up a notch or two. Kutsch was a lot better than I expected and had a great game. Lynott didn't have any issues with his snaps and controlled the point. The only guy who disappointed me was Pursell. I think they replaced him on those last couple possessions to give Shutack and Roddick an opportunity. That position is unsettled and Nebraska is going to be challenging with their quality DTs.