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Official Spring Practice Thread
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Jeric
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Riley is kind of the argument against the Air Raid to me, he went from a guy known for it to adapting to his personnel and being a heavy run team with Perine and Mixon. Sure, he uses Air Raid concepts, but they were 80th in pass play percentage this season. If I thought Chev was doing this inspired by Riley's Oklahoma, then it'd be a different story.
If the offense is good enough to get to consistent bowl seasons and MM is able to continually upgrade talent due to increased success on field = increased success on the recruiting trail and eventually get to more traditional lineup and win with better athletes then I am good with it. I just want to win.
Haha it's Chev's offensive philosophy, not mine. In an ideal world, they'd pick and choose their drives where they want to play "really fast" and be able to execute it whenever they want. The perplexing thing for me is that Mac, being a defensive guy first and the ultimate authority, is cool with that.
Air Raid teams have always seemingly scored a lot of points, but given up just as many.
Seems like Leach's teams over-achieve in general and that Grinch proved that you didn't have to have an awful defense if your offense was Air Raid. WSU didn't have a top 10 offense (I don't have the stats) but they were much better than one would expect given their recruiting level.
Is it possible that the "play fast" effect on your own defense is over-blown? Did Grinch figure something out, perhaps just having to play more guys on D? Spitballing.
Seems like Leach's teams over-achieve in general and that Grinch proved that you didn't have to have an awful defense if your offense was Air Raid. WSU didn't have a top 10 offense (I don't have the stats) but they were much better than one would expect given their recruiting level.
Is it possible that the "play fast" effect on your own defense is over-blown? Did Grinch figure something out, perhaps just having to play more guys on D? Spitballing.
The wider splits do open natural running lanes while also giving the QB natural throwing lanes.
Downside is that they make it difficult to run power in short yardage and red zone situations.
To address that downside, I hope and expect that we will continue to have jumbo and short yardage packages. Everything I'm seeing says that is the case. We're still recruiting TEs - even guys who are as much blocker as receiver. Texas Tech and Wazzu don't really recruit any TEs. Doesn't appear to me that we're anywhere close to going full Air Raid, just that we're borrowing what works and using it within the parameters of how it works best.
Downside is that they make it difficult to run power in short yardage and red zone situations.
To address that downside, I hope and expect that we will continue to have jumbo and short yardage packages. Everything I'm seeing says that is the case. We're still recruiting TEs - even guys who are as much blocker as receiver. Texas Tech and Wazzu don't really recruit any TEs. Doesn't appear to me that we're anywhere close to going full Air Raid, just that we're borrowing what works and using it within the parameters of how it works best.
I'm not a fan of an "Air Raid" system but maybe they figure they don't have a choice.
Totally destroys it.
The data show that stars matter in the aggregate. There will always be exceptions to the rule, both on the underperformerside and the overperformer side.
8Jah
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Air Raid is what the Vegas math folks call a high variance offense. Seems to provide some big wins over better teams, but suffers occasional losses against over-matched competition; blowing the odds either way ...which is pretty much what you see with the cougs every year. Outside Pirate's little run at TT, air raid has a terrible record in the post-season. You can make some dough betting against it in bowl games.
If we use it I hope it is just to cover deficiencies for a season or two.
If we use it I hope it is just to cover deficiencies for a season or two.
Medford M.
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Lol. He is just not that talented. That was evident to me from his HS film.
GoldenSkier
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selfish of you not to tell anyone
vinniew_11
Well-Known Member
Man! CU needs to hire you as a recruiter! Get on that MM and RG
Medford M.
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Hey, I was firmly stating he was not a running back since before he signed.
Apparently not firmly enough. We will be expecting much more from you this year.
I think that was one of the main reasons CU was able to sign him. Because they promised him the RB position.
At what point does bish realize he just isn't that good as a RB?probably never.
I'm not even sure he has the speed or the strength to be a linebacker. I think he could be a decent h-back.
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What is the Oklahoma State offense called??
CULifer
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Efficient as balls.
Playing fast = more plays.
More plays = more likelihood for talent disparity to show.
This is why I will never understand why if you have inferior talent you would want to lengthen games.
IMO when you have less talent, you shorten games, out execute, out prepare/game plan, and out effort teams. Then again I'm just a slap dick on AllBuffs that hasn't coached a day in my life, but I paid my 20 bucks to be a club member so I'm going to put in my 2 cents.
More plays = more likelihood for talent disparity to show.
This is why I will never understand why if you have inferior talent you would want to lengthen games.
IMO when you have less talent, you shorten games, out execute, out prepare/game plan, and out effort teams. Then again I'm just a slap dick on AllBuffs that hasn't coached a day in my life, but I paid my 20 bucks to be a club member so I'm going to put in my 2 cents.
Here's a way to look at it that might help.
It's only when you have ridiculous talent when you can play a vanilla scheme straight up and beat people. The Miami Hurricanes of the 80s, USC under Pete Carroll, the Dallas Cowboys with Emmitt, Irvin & Aikman. You can't allow teams more talented than you to play their games. We always hear the really good teams say that they just have to play their game and not worry about the other team. That's very true. So how do you beat them? The answer to that is that you have to take them out of their game. There are 2 approaches for that. Either you turn it into a sloppy slugfest and out-physical them. (I think that's the approach most CU fans would prefer.) Or, you spread them out, get them off balance, and score so many damn points that you turn it into a track meet at a pace and score they're not used to playing. (What it looks like we're going to try to do.)
Fact is, either approach is likely to fail against the best teams anyway. But the 2nd approach does probably bring in more recruits since it's a more fun style that draws more attention.
There are a number of things that can factor into being a 4* recruit. Part of it is the quality of offers a kid gets. Bish had some offers that were significant recruiting schools.
Another is to physically dominate at the HS level and at the camps and combines. Bish did this as well. Running around in shorts he is an impressive athlete.
Problem is that most of the major schools that offered saw him as an Athlete, not a RB. We ended up with him in part because his first choice plus some others he considered strongly told him that they wouldn't guarantee him a spot as a RB which is what he really wanted to play. We told him at CU he would be a RB.
tl:dr He was a 4* Athlete, not a 4* RB.
It's my dream that my headstone is engraved with "I'm just a slap dick on Allbuffs ".
If anyone is more interested in the motivations of the air raid,The Perfect Pass is a great book that goes through its origins. As well as I remember, Buffnik is right. The reason the no-huddle offense goes fast is because they can and they most likely practice it more than the other team. If you only have 5 or 6 plays that you run all practice, every practice, and you can set into those quickly, then why wouldn't you make the other team as tired as possible? This way, the superior talent is reduced to reacting on the field, which you can beat with timing routes and horizontal scheme.
That's how I understood it, anyways
That's how I understood it, anyways
Thanks. But I’ll pass.