Wow. He missed some passes?!?! That's ****ing insane!! How did he ever manage to get a D1 scholarship offer missing, not just one, but MULTIPLE passes??!?!? You're right. He's garbage. Someone find us a QB who won't miss passes pls.
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Official Texas State Game Thread
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vinniew_11
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Easy TD passes, yes. That a good to decent D1 QB makes with ease. When a Freshman QB has to tell him to "play like me", meaning play from the pocket. Come on. That's elementary stuff that he should know.
vinniew_11
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And by being thrown in, I meant as QB #2, he was more than decent. He hasn't shown the fire, or improvement as "the guy" in the huddle.
Lol. Dude, not to be a dick but you're just not living in reality right now. You're spinning a narrative that fits your initial argument.
Shldr just threw some stats at you that pretty much completely contradict your point but you continue to grasp at straws. The Lytle rumor does nothing to support your argument, nor does anything the announcers said.
Carry on though. As you said, you are entitled to your own opinion. However, we are entitled to comment on your opinion.
Bliff Cranch
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It isn't a rumor. Montez quoted it on live radio.
Yeah. Two of your captains on offense getting suspended two games for breaking team rules is probably not a good sign.
And the press conference.
MacIntyre was trying to get through to Steven and it ended up with Montez getting frustrated. Lytle came over, said "play like me" and for whatever reason that clicked with Steven. He settled in the pocket and started looking downfield.
CULifer
Well-Known Member
Vinniew_11, Damn, you're relentless. I respect the fact that you're critical of Montez. I think almost everyone on this board would agree that Montez might do well to be a little more critical of himself too. But i think we need to give him time to do that and mature, and the coaches time to develop that in him. Give the kid a chance to grow, and trust the coaches to know how to accelerate it.
Fair enough. Replace the word "rumor" with "instance" and my post still stands.
As I said, I stand corrected. However, this says more about Lylte and less about Montez. Good on Lytle for finding a way to help a teammate out. Good on Montez for respecting his teammate enough to listen. I'm not sure how that instance is being spun as anything but a positive.
I think this is his problem.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
If on field production is high, tolerance levels for petulance and cockiness will be high as well. Montez will have to continue to produce or coaching tolerance will drop.
vinniew_11
Well-Known Member
Let me just put it like this: we just played against a MWC and a Sunbelt team. Would those two QB performances play well against a PAC 12 team? Are we honestly happy with the QB play considering those factors? I'm not.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Lame...kid isn't perfect....Yet. He will get better
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Play to the competition level
Was at the game.
Buffs came out acting like it was a scrimmage, didn't respect Texas State and almost got embarrassed because of it early on. DL got blocked early and to often later in the game. Leo Jackson was good against the pass, after the early Stuff Javier was solid against the rush.
Montez had a rough day. Part of it is that we need Irwin back, we need Miller back for depth. LT is a position that requires a specific skill set and right now they don't have it.
Montez looked like he was pressing. He missed multiple deep balls long, and not just a little bit long. At least 2-3 with a decent pass would have been additional TDs, the WRs were in the clear.
Speaking of in the clear Lil Mac was open all day and Montez missed seeing him going elsewhere with the ball.
Overall not a good day despite the score. Buffs have a lot of young talent but the sharpness just isn't there.
Also some improvement over last year on special teams. Kicked FGs well, KOs in the end zone. The one KO coverage they had to make turned Bobo's penalty into a plus as they stopped the returner 8 yards short of the touchback line.
Punting was also solid, punt coverage looked good, they almost blocked a punt (got the tip.) Only negative, Oliver's PR fumble turned into a lucky break TD.
Buffs came out acting like it was a scrimmage, didn't respect Texas State and almost got embarrassed because of it early on. DL got blocked early and to often later in the game. Leo Jackson was good against the pass, after the early Stuff Javier was solid against the rush.
Montez had a rough day. Part of it is that we need Irwin back, we need Miller back for depth. LT is a position that requires a specific skill set and right now they don't have it.
Montez looked like he was pressing. He missed multiple deep balls long, and not just a little bit long. At least 2-3 with a decent pass would have been additional TDs, the WRs were in the clear.
Speaking of in the clear Lil Mac was open all day and Montez missed seeing him going elsewhere with the ball.
Overall not a good day despite the score. Buffs have a lot of young talent but the sharpness just isn't there.
Also some improvement over last year on special teams. Kicked FGs well, KOs in the end zone. The one KO coverage they had to make turned Bobo's penalty into a plus as they stopped the returner 8 yards short of the touchback line.
Punting was also solid, punt coverage looked good, they almost blocked a punt (got the tip.) Only negative, Oliver's PR fumble turned into a lucky break TD.
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HarleyCycler
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Actually you don't respect the fact that he is critical of Montez at all. Your first response was to sarcastically call him a scholar of the game and tell him he should remove himself from this thread. Then you told him that his stating his right to have an opinion was a cover up for a poor argument against Montez. Now you complain that he is relentless in trying to defend his opinion.
To summarize some of the complaints about Montez, he is arrogant, doesn't connect with his head coach and needs a true freshman QB to calm him down. There is nothing here to indicate any type of leadership qualities that a QB is expected to have. The coaches have had a whole off season and the longest training camp ever to develop him and this is the results that people are seeing? Maybe he should sit for the next game so that he can 'mature' and grow up a little bit before the conference games start.
Let the personal attacks begin.
christ. sefo was an unbelievably good leader. he did not have better physical tools than montez. he was hurt and often badly most of last year. what made the team gel last year and finally turn the corner was leadership. sefo and others. montez may or may not get there, but we are in game 2 of him as THE MAN instead of a sub. i'll place a bet on a guy with every physical tool you could ask for AND who as a sub put up some gaudy ass numbers AND who just won his first 2 games post Sefo with qb ratings that are off the chart.
we've won with guys at qb with far less talent than this guy. he's young. we're still seeing them come together as a team. calling for a new qb right now is stupid. sorry. but, it is stupid.
we've won with guys at qb with far less talent than this guy. he's young. we're still seeing them come together as a team. calling for a new qb right now is stupid. sorry. but, it is stupid.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Maybe this could be a possibility. But I doubt it. If the coaches thought they had a better option at this point, I think they would have exercised it. With that being said Montez is it for time being.
Especially after seeing the guys that SC and Stanford have
CULifer
Well-Known Member
Is it lack of improvement from last year? and was this the case last year too?
The depth has been bad for a while.
I don't take it as a great sign they seem to want to redshirt Fontenot either.
we still don't have the bodies, across the board, to be elite. that's why the apparent lack of focus today really pissed me off. we're going to have to dial it up and catch some breaks to make real noise. lindsay is a good rb. he'll be much better if and when the o-line gets its **** together.
But what do we have after Lindsay? One guy is not enough.
I called for him pre season
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Bisharat appears to have made zero progress over last year. I'm afraid this is who he is.