and what scares the hell out of me? kids these days are in a want it now generation...they lack the vision or really could care less if the program does good 6/5 or even 4 years later... Like queen said "I want it all and I want it now!...
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If I'm a football player or a college student, I absolutely care a lot more about how the program is gonna do while I'm in school. That's sort of the important part.
I don't believe you are being fair here. Of course they want to win. What's wrong with that? I want kids who want to win.
That song is 30 years old. Is wanting it now different than wanting it now, then?
BuffaloChuck
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I have a lot more faith in these players. They've been playing organized sports for years and years. That means they've lost plenty. They've probably understood Effort vs Success Ratios, and understood Good Teammates vs Bad Ones, too.
I also KNOW they were all promised a whole lotta sunshine being pumped up their skirts during the recruiting process - this is hardly ever a First-Date situation, too. It's piled on thicker and higher for months, probably years, by some programs. Embree didn't have that much time to 'win' these first year's recruits, but I'm sure he won their hearts and minds. Now, it looks like the commitment level isn't there.
I'll be watching to see how this changes over the season. This "Show up strong in Qtr 1, Roll over in Qtrs 2-3-4" says "Players are not prepared for putting out the needed effort." Uh. Coach? Coach?
I have faith that these players know some things. Keeping their commitment levels high, though... this has not been successful and this needs to be a team-wide leadership effort. Head coaches NEED to accomplish this.
I also KNOW they were all promised a whole lotta sunshine being pumped up their skirts during the recruiting process - this is hardly ever a First-Date situation, too. It's piled on thicker and higher for months, probably years, by some programs. Embree didn't have that much time to 'win' these first year's recruits, but I'm sure he won their hearts and minds. Now, it looks like the commitment level isn't there.
I'll be watching to see how this changes over the season. This "Show up strong in Qtr 1, Roll over in Qtrs 2-3-4" says "Players are not prepared for putting out the needed effort." Uh. Coach? Coach?
I have faith that these players know some things. Keeping their commitment levels high, though... this has not been successful and this needs to be a team-wide leadership effort. Head coaches NEED to accomplish this.
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MINN-Buffalo
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Unless Embree can get 2 wins he should go. :/
I don't think Embo's the guy, but he should stay. Not sure about Marshall or Brown, but whatever.
A few thoughts on this team and improvement:
From prior years, we are much improved in penalties and special teams. Offense looked better than against CSU against a better opponent...IMO. Should be better against Fres, especially with Wood in the mix and maybe some changes to the O line. The defense is still horrendous and got worse last game. If they keep "grinding" it, maybe something will break and build some momentum. Not holding my breath...but with the season effectively over as far as a bowl game, gotta look for improvement...that's what I'm relegated to.
A few thoughts on this team and improvement:
From prior years, we are much improved in penalties and special teams. Offense looked better than against CSU against a better opponent...IMO. Should be better against Fres, especially with Wood in the mix and maybe some changes to the O line. The defense is still horrendous and got worse last game. If they keep "grinding" it, maybe something will break and build some momentum. Not holding my breath...but with the season effectively over as far as a bowl game, gotta look for improvement...that's what I'm relegated to.
Even if 100% of us fans believe that, I don't think it will happen. The best we can hope for are staff changes.
I have a feeling that after we get pasted again on Saturday, the restlessness will start all over again. I just can't see people being rational for about 48 hours after the game, myself included.
I'm not sure about that just based on past actions from the AD/administration. It didn't seem to impact their decision to keep Hawk around the extra year. I don't have hard numbers, but I fail to see how that decision didn't cost them season ticket holders and negatively impact ticket sales/concessions/apparel.
It is a different scenario. Benson was dealing with a state funding issue on Capitol Hill, and didn't want to cause a political backlash by paying a large buyout to the fired coach (which is completely asinine, but that is another story). Dan Hawkins buyout was considerably higher, and the fan base was holding pretty steady with all things considered. Finally, the admin had the Pac 12 move to energize the fanbase. They don't have that luxury this time.
I think the fallout from a continued disasterous season will be much more precipitous this time around. The Colorado fan base is far less tolerant, and Embree's buyout much cheaper. The AD is also in a much stronger financial position at this time. I'm not saying this will happen by any means, but I think it is a very good possibility if the season completely bombs.