hawg1
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He made the program respectable, approaching average at 4-5 conf wins.
Peter Principle reached.
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OSU game fallout thread
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Peter Principle reached.
hawg1
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This really is the biggest game of his career. A win will not erase OSU. But a loss could very well be terminal.
I do not see the admin. pulling the trigger on MikMac, even if they finish 5-7. I predicted 7-5, and I do think they will pull at least one more win out of their hat. My 7-5 assumed OSU was a gimme. Little did I know CU would lay down, at home, on homecoming and let the Beavers have their way with them.
When D II Danny was retained for year five, when any thinking person could see the massive problems and the stupidity of keeping him, I realized the admin. was largely happy having a team, winning a few games and being nice. As long as the FB team doesn't cause negative PR, all is well. Enter nice MikMac.
The team is soft, and has been for quite a while. OSU gets fired up at the half, comes out and punches CU in the mouth a few times...game over. Same thing at ASU last year where their no name RB went off and took over the 4th Q. Also that midget RB from Utah trucking CU LBs and DBs...no fire, ready to accept a loss. Kind of pathetic actually.
I had hoped with the recent recruiting improvement, something had changed. It appears it hasn't. I still get to a game a season. But, mainly, I keep my powder dry. CU FB, regrettably, is not at the top of the list of things to do on a Sat. fall afternoon. It used to be. Even through the first few D II Danny years, I made time to get to the games.
Premium prices for a mediocre, sometimes infuriatingly bad, product just do not cut it, even for an alum and fan like me. Add in the ridiculous security theater, traffic etc. and it is easier to watch on the big screen at home.
ahoelsken
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Oh there will be staff changes at a minimum. Saturday assured that. Gary Bernardi's deal is up in June. DJ Eliot has a year left on his deal, and he hasn't done a ****ing thing to warrant getting an extension.
King_George_XXIV_Rules
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ESPN puts that chance of at least winning another game and becoming bowl-eligible at a healthy 79% for the Buffs, so not bad odds.
HolyBuff
Well-Known Member
Like Willie Taggert just did when his FSU team got smoked by Clemson.
Willie's a standup guy. I think he'll get things fixed at FSU.
Joe Theismann's Leg
Well-Known Member
That loss really sucked, but I'm off the ledge now. I feel like we can fix a lot of the issues with the team, and if Montez stays, we're going to look really great next year. If not, we'll still have some talent at QB and some transfer options I imagine.
Define "really great." MM just throw out random superlatives when anything goes wrong.
NBDefektor
Well-Known Member
In my opinion DJ Elliott has been a very good DC this year. Granted, I was driving during the second half of the OSU game, so i don't know what the hell happened there, but the 2nd half adjustments he's made throughout the year have been nothing short of amazing. I was definitely not high on him before this year, but he has shown us all what he is capable of the first 7 games of the year.
The 2d H performance by CU D was as bad as I have seen. That being said, DJ has had the D paying reasonably well across the board in the other 15 halves of FB played this year.
I’ve stepped back from the ledge. I went pretty fast through all phases of grief and hit acceptance after a few hours.
We are what we are. I expect we will win one or two games out of the remaining four. MM will stick around, and we will be a perpetual 6-8 win team with a few unmitigated disasters thrown in from time to time. But we will also get a few gems like the NU game as well.
Not quite what I would hope for. I think we can do better. I also think that right now, it just doesn’t make financial sense to make a coaching change. It’s an expensive thing to fire a coach and hire a new one, and you never know exactly what the new guy will do. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.Talk to me in December 2019 and my tune could very well change.
We are what we are. I expect we will win one or two games out of the remaining four. MM will stick around, and we will be a perpetual 6-8 win team with a few unmitigated disasters thrown in from time to time. But we will also get a few gems like the NU game as well.
Not quite what I would hope for. I think we can do better. I also think that right now, it just doesn’t make financial sense to make a coaching change. It’s an expensive thing to fire a coach and hire a new one, and you never know exactly what the new guy will do. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.Talk to me in December 2019 and my tune could very well change.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Fair, but need to get to 7-5 I think. Sense of urgency needs to stay on this team and staff. No excuse for gagging a game like the one we did the other day.
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BlackNGold
Club Member
He has 14 conference wins in 5+ years. That is not 4-5. Take out the 2016 season and you have 6 wins in 4+ years. The 2016 season was great but is that really what MM gets you. It looks to me that 3 conference wins is what you get. If you load your OOC schedule with weak teams you can get to a bowl game once in awhile.
So as of now, you are...not sure?
pcbuff
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My gosh you guys are forgiving. Someone needs to be fired today. That was a home game disaster. A message needs to be sent to recruits, team and fans that this sort of performance is not what the AD wants or expects. OSU is a very bad team and this staff let them overcome a historic deficit. The AD should not pay millions to set negative historic precedents! It’s insane!
You are right...fire DiStephano.
Not because it solves any football issues (maybe it does,) but I am always in favor of firing DiStephano.
doesn't look very good. at first glance 2 conference wins a year
I am, and always will be... not sure.
In contrast here is Calhoun at AF and what he has done with his limited recruiting
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| 2007 | Air Force | 9–4 | 6–2 | 2nd | L Armed Forces |
| 2008 | Air Force | 8–5 | 5–3 | 4th | L Armed Forces |
| 2009 | Air Force | 8–5 | 5–3 | 4th | W Armed Forces |
| 2010 | Air Force | 9–4 | 5–3 | T–3rd | W Independence |
| 2011 | Air Force | 7–6 | 3–4 | 5th | L Military |
| 2012 | Air Force | 6–7 | 5–3 | 4th | L Armed Forces |
| 2013 | Air Force | 2–10 | 0–8 | 6th (Mountain) | |
| 2014 | Air Force | 10–3 | 5–3 | 4th (Mountain) | W Famous Idaho Potato |
| 2015 | Air Force | 8–6 | 6–2 | 1st (Mountain) | L Armed Forces |
| 2016 | Air Force | 10–3 | 5–3 | T–4th (Mountain) | W Arizona |
| 2017 | Air Force | 5–7 | 4–4 | T–4th (Mountain) | |
| 2018 | Air Force | 3–5 | 1–4 | (Mountain) | |
| Air Force: | 85–65 | 50–43 |
ESPN put our chance of beating OSU at 99.6%
They won't even notice with all the Pac-12 network money rolling in.
ahoelsken
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He's coaching for his job this month.
I’ll address it. We blitzed and sold out far too much. Not too little. The vet qb got the ball out quicker than the guy we sacked a billion times. He made good reads. And they attacked our weakness at corner. Our corners can’t cover man and they especially can’t do it against bigger more physical receivers. Our failure to adjust on defense when they put the new qb in was a deciding factor in the loss.
Next question.
AllStarBuffs
Member
i'm just curious, what exactly is the definition of a "solid rebuild" and what exactly is the definition of "taking an established program to the next level."?
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
No. No. No.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Good questions. To me...
1) solid rebuild means you have a foundation for 2-deep across the board, some holes plugged occasionally with JC or graduate transfer help. You staff is experienced across the board. You have seasoned coordinators. And everybody on the staff can recruit, including and especially the position coaches. And the HC can close. Additionally, the HC has several signature wins, preferably over ranked teams, with minimized travesty losses.
2) Takinh to the next level can easily be defined in last year’s Three Year Strategic Athletics Plan.
That’s my $0.02.
MM had built a respectable, below average (4-5 conf wins) program. He does not have the leadership or sense of urgency to take it to the next level.
Period.