Mick Ronson
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Other Games 09/04 - 09/06
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Mick Ronson
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Never liked Gundy much but respected the success he's had in Stillwater. Now, though, seems he wants to make himself bigger than the program and then bring it down with him.
Which I don't respect.
Which I don't respect.
I think he has been daring the School to fire him since the end of last season
When the coaches hot seat threat eventually appears it's probably going to be busier than normal this year.
NIL and the portal has changed the fundamental way college football works and there are coaches who can't or won't adapt. Add to that the rapidly increasing dollars involved both in cost and revenues the stakes are higher.
Gundy is a strange deal because he had a lot of success there for a long time. Now the program is just trash.
Florida is a program that many expect to be elite and easy to argue they should be but other than Spurrier and Urban they haven't been able to be much above average. When you consider that like other SEC teams they play a couple of games each year against lower level schools having a .600 winning percentage is really like being a .500 team. Napier doesn't even reach .600. Their fans are going to be even less patient because Georgia has been winning big, Miami is consistently ranked, and now Florida State looks to back to winning.
Foster will be on the hot seat because his team is bad but they aren't going to get anyone who will do much better. UCLA as a program is in a bad spot. They had to go B1G because of the money but they aren't serious enough about football to compete.
Different people of course but Foster reminds me of the E.B. hire. School knows that nobody decent wants the job so let's hire a former player to keep the fans from complaining
Foster better beat New Mexico this week or he should clean out his office after the game.
I can't think of many at this level.
If Kathy Ireland was the kicker and it had Sinbad with Scott Bakula as the QB, pretty sure that's it.
Buffellow85
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Bruins beginning to shop for a replacement
https://www.lafbnetwork.com/ncaaf/u...ace-deshaun-foster-as-ucla-bruins-head-coach/
I think they very well might unless mullet just walks away.
I had to look up Pry. Napier, of course. He might not make it through the season.
New Mexico is horrible, barely survived against FCS Idaho State this week. Win or lose that one UCLA has a bye then at a bad Northwestern. After those two I don't see a game on their schedule that they would even be given much chance of winning.
Lose to New Mexico, fire Foster and hope for a dead cat bounce with Northwestern. If they don't get one of those winless is highly likely.
Foster won't be their coach next year. He gets paid either way, might be better for him to get fired now.
The Foster situation is interesting.
Chip Kelly basically stopped recruiting, and left them in a massive hole. They started off horribly last year, but finished really strong. They're in a horrible situation being little brother to USC, and possibly in the geographically worst situation of any P4 school.
Maybe they're the second Purdue in the B1G 10 though, just cash the football checks and invest in basketball?
Medford M.
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What happened to Drones?
He looked like a decent prospect, but he’s absolute ass now.
That might be their future.
They were rarely competing for anything in the PAC, they aren't going to raise their level to be competitive with programs like Michigan, tOSU, PSU, etc. Even if they try at recruiting they end up losing to SC, Oregon, Washington and even the Arizona schools.
For college fans SC pretty much owns LA, and the college football culture just isn't there to support mulitple programs.
Buffellow85
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UCLA athletic department ran a deficit of $80M dollars last year. With the additional B1G travel costs for the revenue and non revenue sports, it’s only going to get worse unless they start cutting men/women programs.
How the share of AP poll points has changed week to week by conference:
The ACC had a bad week, and paid for it. That Michigan vs Oklahoma result could end up being the difference between which of the two big dogs get more teams into the CFP.
Big individual movers(66 ballots last week, 65 this week):
Rising:
USF +6.5 points per ballot
Oklahoma +5.9 ppb
Florida State +3.0 ppb
Iowa State +3.6 ppb
Tennessee +3.1 ppb
Falling:
Arizona State -11.4 ppb
Florida -10.1 ppb
SMU -8.1 ppb
Michigan -6.6 ppb
Clemson -3.4 ppb
Georgia was the 6th biggest faller at -0.6ppb, but that's a very small change. In contrast there were 14 teams that added 1 or more ppb. Illinois at +2.5ppb makes sense with a solid number against a potentially solid P4 opponent in Duke, Ole Miss at +2.0 for a narrow win over a Kentucky team that may not win an SEC game makes less sense to me.
Utah's +2.1ppb might be a bit of the lag that comes with the late night thrashing of UCLA last week that might not have fully registered in last week's poll.
Most of the rest of the >+1ppb appear to be the group of teams in the teens benefitting from the drops by Arizona State, Florida, and SMU.
The ACC had a bad week, and paid for it. That Michigan vs Oklahoma result could end up being the difference between which of the two big dogs get more teams into the CFP.
Big individual movers(66 ballots last week, 65 this week):
Rising:
USF +6.5 points per ballot
Oklahoma +5.9 ppb
Florida State +3.0 ppb
Iowa State +3.6 ppb
Tennessee +3.1 ppb
Falling:
Arizona State -11.4 ppb
Florida -10.1 ppb
SMU -8.1 ppb
Michigan -6.6 ppb
Clemson -3.4 ppb
Georgia was the 6th biggest faller at -0.6ppb, but that's a very small change. In contrast there were 14 teams that added 1 or more ppb. Illinois at +2.5ppb makes sense with a solid number against a potentially solid P4 opponent in Duke, Ole Miss at +2.0 for a narrow win over a Kentucky team that may not win an SEC game makes less sense to me.
Utah's +2.1ppb might be a bit of the lag that comes with the late night thrashing of UCLA last week that might not have fully registered in last week's poll.
Most of the rest of the >+1ppb appear to be the group of teams in the teens benefitting from the drops by Arizona State, Florida, and SMU.
More revenue from the B1G TV contract should more than make up for that. I believe they're getting a smaller share but even so they should be fine within the next few years once the full share kicks in.
BuffWarHogFrog
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Fact that the coach’s poll still ASU ranked in a travesty.
Trogdor
Soy Boy
They're all so gutless. "nobody" is willing to open their eyes and make big changes despite the fact that every single person knows how stupid the preseason rankings are in the first place. At least have the balls to course correct, but for the SEC that's only in one direction. "Clemson sucks". "Yeah but we can't drop LSU *now*, it's too late!"
It's funny that both are secondary Clemson effects.
Clemson losing the first half to Troy is why they dropped out of the top ten and why Notre Dame moved up.
LSU's win over Clemson is seem by some as the best win of the first two weeks of the season.
I would probably put it 2nd after the OSU win over Texas.
Heard some radio talk about CSU-UNC. The problem, as they correctly stated, is that no one cares about UNC getting screwed in a game against CSU. Even here on this board, it’s like, meh, stupid CSU got lucky.
But if this had happened in the OSU - UT game, we would still be talking about it. It’s too bad for UNC, but it is important in the sense that it was an absolute failure of replay review, and it makes you wonder if there should even be replay review at all below a certain level, if they can’t get enough camera angles or whatnot.
But if this had happened in the OSU - UT game, we would still be talking about it. It’s too bad for UNC, but it is important in the sense that it was an absolute failure of replay review, and it makes you wonder if there should even be replay review at all below a certain level, if they can’t get enough camera angles or whatnot.
Replay is limited by the available camera angles but it should still be able to result in correcting certain obvious errors. As the games go down to lower levels they will have fewer camera angles but then they simply default to what is supposed to be the rule of going with the call on the field.
I watch some D2 games and they more often have to go with the on-field officials because they don't have the angle but they still sometimes are able to fix obvious errors .
The CSU-UNC game the problem wasn't about the camera angles, it was about the refs not following the standard of going with the call unless they have clear evidence to overturn. They clearly didn't. Multiple angles and not a single one showed any part of the ball touching the ground. The only way to overturn the call on the field would have been to claim that the ball was loose (which the replay did show some bobbling) and that in the process of rolling over the ball touched the ground before the receiver had full control which he eventually did. Again no camera angle at any time showed the ball touching the ground and the call on the field was a TD. Because of the body position of the involved players it is doubtful that any camera angle would have shown clear evidence to overturn. It was completely a case of the officialls not following the protocol.
OSU v Texas both breaking in new QBs, while potentially both being top 5 defenses, make it hard for me to take a ton away from a 14-7 win for the home team.
Clemson could be a fraud, and Klubnik could be useless in big games, but maybe that slow first half against Troy was just a hangover.
I think LSU being on the road, and beating an experienced QB was likely a little more impressive.
BuffWarHogFrog
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And I still can’t tell where I put ND and Miami.
USF beats Miami this weekend and the Bulls clearly have the best resume in all of CFB.