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So do I, but the Nubs aren't any kind of measuring stick these days and quite frankly haven't been for 1.5 decades.
I actually think UM and Nubs will be competitive. I see Nubs being in a lot of games, but I don't see them winning many of them this season.
 
Wake has won the ACC twice- 1970 and 2006. In 1970 when they won the ACC, they had a 6-5 record. They're .413 all-time overall, have had 3 consensus All-Americans, play in a 31k stadium and generally can't even sell that many tickets, and the last coach with an above-.500 record there was D.C. "Peahead" Walker from 1937-1950.

I love Wake, many members of my family went there and live in the area, and I've rooted for them always, but besides an aberrational 2006, they've never been a factor in college football. They're a P5 team by pure historic accident, and are the smallest such school, with fewer than 5,000 undergrads.

I know you were just mentioning them off-hand and pointing out that Clemson hasn't always been a top program, even without that league... but whoever was winning before Clemson, it certainly wasn't Wake. Beautiful campus though.
Exactly. Wake is their Washington State. Win one a millennium and beat some rando highly ranked teams every once in a while.
 
The more and more I watch some of the these teams..........the more and more I think we wind up with a gaudy record this year.

USC, in particular at the Coliseum, is one of those games where I am gonna believe it when I see it and even then I may not quite believe it. We're 0-12 against them.
 
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