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Other Pac 12 games, discussion thread...
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CVilleBuff
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Washington won't be showing any mercy against them next week, that's for sure. 12 straight losses.
Oregon doesn't need to be this bad, but maybe there's no salvaging it at this point with Helfrich in charge. It's not hard to see them being 4-8 when you look at their schedule. Anything beyond 6-6 is stretching it. @ Cal/ASU is what will determine whether they can keep their bowl streak alive.
Oregon doesn't need to be this bad, but maybe there's no salvaging it at this point with Helfrich in charge. It's not hard to see them being 4-8 when you look at their schedule. Anything beyond 6-6 is stretching it. @ Cal/ASU is what will determine whether they can keep their bowl streak alive.
CVilleBuff
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I tend to agree, although I certainly don't take a W over them for granted. This one tonight is more about Oregon being a disaster than Wazzu doing anything incredible, IMO.
Us & Nebraska; of course the Corn almost gave one away in Memorial.
Safe to say that, all things being equal as a home team, the Nubs are 20+ points the lesser team than the Cougs.
They are a different team at Autzen. Team is a mess, but it was trying to get healthy at home. Buffs would have rolled them at Folsom.
Hoke was a horrible hire. I'm not sure why people thought that was a good move.
Guy has never been a DC and it was still praised by national media.
FlatironsBuff
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CU just beat the Ducks for the second week in a row.
FlatironsBuff
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If Montez hadn't gifted Oregon those two picks last week CU would have made Oregon quit too. They were on the verge of quitting before the picks sparked life into them. Plus, I want WSU overconfident when they come to Colorado.
Big name hire. Had me fooled. I admit it.
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
What was he before Michigan hired him ... an OC, or a position coach?
HC at SDSU and Ball St before that,prior to all that he was position coach,mostly DL I think.
I feel like Oregon is rapidly becoming the popular guy that peaked in high school and the really hot chicks are starting to take notice.
Helfrich is done imho. Even if he gets them to a Bowl, don't see him there next year. Never really thought much of Hoke either.
FlatironsBuff
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Oregon is the Al Bundy of the college football landscape?
8Jah
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Good recruiter. Filled the cupboard for harbaugh
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
The problem for Helfrich began when their long time DC retired a few years back. It hurt to lose Frost as probably his right hand. Then under pressure he hires Hoke who was never a coordinator before becoming a head coach or associated with Oregon and coordinating a defense to compliment their offense. If Helfrich makes a bowl he lives another year.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
It's the national media, they praise HRC and DJT...
I have a hard time not seeing Oregon as a consistent power in the Pacific 12. Too much money
Money only works if you throw it at the right coaching staff. Do they have that right now? The uniforms feel more like a gimmick when their losing, than something recruits are enamored by. They had their niche of playing fast and being flashy, and I think they are kind of devoid of an identity right now.
Agree with this. Oregon is only special to recruits when they are winning.
Yes the have the facilities and the uniforms but the reason they were getting the recruits is because Kelly and his staff had them putting up huge numbers and they were fixtures on the highlight shows.
For Oregon to win they have to get the players out of SoCal. When they are winning they can do that, fall back to average and it is hard to beat the LA schools.
They will have the money to hire the coach they want but will the coach they get be able to match Kelly's success? History would say that plenty of programs have had trouble finding that guy.