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Pac-10 to invite 6 Big 12 schools

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The Big 12 meetings are reaching their climax Thursday and Friday in Kansas City with the presidents and chancellors from the league coming together to discuss pressing issues, including sites for championships. (Look for the Big 12 title game in football to stay at Cowboys Stadium for the next three years.)

But when it comes to possible realignment, the Big 12 meetings may be premature.

Why?

Because it appears the Pac-10, which has its meetings in San Francisco starting this weekend, is prepared to make a bold move and invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado to join its league, according to multiple sources close to the situation.

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Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds has maintained that the Longhorns will do whatever it takes to remain the Jones' of college football.Left out would be Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska and Missouri.

Messages left with Pac-10 officials by Orangebloods.com on Thursday were not immediately returned.

The six teams from the Big 12 would be in an eight-team division with Arizona and Arizona State. The other eight-team division would consist of USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State.

The thought is the Big 16 (or whatever they decide for the name) would start its own television network that could command premium subscriber dollars from cable providers on par with the Big Ten Network and pay out upwards of $20 million to each of the 16 schools in TV revenue.

Such a merger between the six Big 12 schools and the Pac-10 would build a conference with seven of the country's top 20 TV markets (Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston, Phoenix, Seattle and Sacramento). And such a league would likely command attention from every cable system in the country and command a premium rate from every cable system west of the Mississippi.

Those projected TV revenues would double the current payouts of roughly $9 million to Big 12 and Pac-10 members. If the Big 16 reached its projections, the league would also surpass the SEC's projected payout of $17 million per school reached in a 15-year TV deal with ABC/ESPN and CBS signed in 2008.
 
Mick Ronson said:
Texas Tech, a real bonanza for them.
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I would honestly think they'd rather have KU for the hoops program than the tortilla flingers from Lubbock... :huh:

I can live with this idea, I guess. But I'd really much, much, much rather do this thing without the ****ing Texass schools...
 
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This would instantly make the Pac 10 (16) rival the SEC.
The Texas Tech choice is curious. I'd think Utah would be a better choice.
I don't like that Texas & OU stays around but at the same time it would be better
for Colorado than to be left behind.
 
"Appears... according to multiple sources" which is about as valid as anything else we've heard to date. That would be a very tough division and conference for the Buffs, but CU's alternative would be CFB hell.

The Pac 16 TV deal would be lucrative and likely be split evenly a la the Big 10 Network deal - which, I would think, would greatly benefit the CU coffers given the cache coming in alongside the Buffs.
 
If this happened, what would the scheduling be?

7 games against your division and 2 games against the other (one home and one away) with 3 OOC games?

I'm for it as long as CU would play at least 1 Cali team a year.
 
13Buff said:
If this happened, what would the scheduling be?

7 games against your division and 2 games against the other (one home and one away) with 3 OOC games?

I'm for it as long as CU would play at least 1 Cali team a year.
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this is actually a very good point. One of the biggest draws of the Pac10 is the fact that there are a bazillion CU alumni in California. CU getting stuck in the Western Division would sort of defeat the purpose...
 
who says texas or OU will accept the invite, whos to say this isnt a bargaining chip for the SEC and Big-10 should they come calling
 
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13Buff said:
If this happened, what would the scheduling be?

7 games against your division and 2 games against the other (one home and one away) with 3 OOC games?

I'm for it as long as CU would play at least 1 Cali team a year.
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That is what I am thinking 7+2+3
 
CU replaces Baylor in the B12 South + the 2 Arizona schools.

Sounds like the concept is to play the seven teams in your division and four team from the west each year.
USC/Stanford/Oregon/Wazzou home and away, then rotate to UCLA/CAL/OSBeav/UW, or something like that.
The OOC game would be CSU. And that's the 12 game schedule, except for the once every decade trip to Dallas or Phoenix or LA for the CCG.

Not too shabby.
 
sackman said:
Hate this. Hope it doesn't happen.
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Agree, CU going to the PAC 10 is all about getting away from Texas. What if Texas gets the invite, takes it, and within 5 years has unequal revenue sharing in and is dominating the PAC 16? CU is just back in the same spot. In addition, CU to the PAC 10 increases recruiting exposure in California and also gives the Buffs something to offer the Texas kids that UT can't.
 
13Buff said:
If this happened, what would the scheduling be?

7 games against your division and 2 games against the other (one home and one away) with 3 OOC games?

I'm for it as long as CU would play at least 1 Cali team a year.
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The most common 16 team scenario I've seen has been 2 conferences of 4 divisions. 7 games in your conference, you play one of the other divisions and the last game is up for grabs, either from the 4th division or OOC. There are no rules that says you have 3 or 4 OOC games, it's just how it's always been done in the past.

The craziest scenario has that 12th game being used as kind of a playoff for the CCG. Presents all kinds of scheduling difficulties though to do it that way.
 
Razorbuff said:
Agree, CU going to the PAC 10 is all about getting away from Texas. What if Texas gets the invite, takes it, and within 5 years has unequal revenue sharing in and is dominating the PAC 16? CU is just back in the same spot. In addition, CU to the PAC 10 increases recruiting exposure in California and also gives the Buffs something to offer the Texas kids that UT can't.
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Yep. In this scenario, UT just out-spends everybody and moves the conference offices to Dallas in another 10 years. Inviting in three Texas schools (and two de-facto Texas schools) into the Pac 10 is about the stupidest thing I can imagine. Who was the idot who came up with this idea, anyway?
 
My interest in the Pac 10 is closely linked to my desire to travel to games in good towns (WSU aside). I'm not sure this plan accomplishes that.
 
****.this.****. i did read revenue would be equal and around 20 mil per year, which is nice. but i want nothing to do with playing both texas and ou and maybe usc in the same year.
 
superdeluxe said:
That is what I am thinking 7+2+3
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thinking about it, I would rather go 7 division games, 3 against the other (with 1 guaranteed game against an LA school) and 2 OOC games.

That way a kid from SOCAL will play 2 games in LA while at CU.
 
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I'm not a huge fan of bringing the Texas schools over, but you are greatly underestimating the power that the original 8 and especially the LA schools have in keeping balance in a 16 team league. It's not like the Big XII where the majority of the power is already centered around Texas and Oklahoma.
 
dply said:
Said BCS in 1994. :lol:
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and if USC takes a probation hit, their power as a counter-balance to UT in the big spending/facilities arms race and blue chip recruiting monopoly is greatly diminished if Kiffin steers them into the ditch.
 
Speaking of that, what is the status of Kansas State or Iowa State, I havent heard them mentioned much in these conversations at all. I havent heard Kansas talked about too much either, but I am sure someone is going to grab them up for at least their Basketball Program alone.
 
I think this is absolutely sick and would love it, but Tech makes no sense to me. I still think they need to invite Utah, so they can have 4 divisions:

USC, UCLA, Standford, Cal
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Arizona St
Oregon, Oregon St, Washington, Washington State

you can probably switch the arizona and oklahoma schools.
 
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