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Pac 12 After Dark

ahoelsken said:
Here's what the issue is-The Big Ten Network has a partner in FOX. The SEC Network is ESPN backed. Hell, even the Longhorn network got their own TV partner. Larry Scott attempted to do this himself. If these networks have an investment in a conference TV network, they're more than likely to bend over backwards to put that conference's teams on their network. Why do you think Nebraska and Northern Illinois wound up on national TV? Why do you think FOX did a doubleheader that featured the likes of Purdue and Michigan State during the middle of the day on 9/23?

This is not a problem that gets fixed by expansion, and I think the only teams who would answer the phone if the Pac 12 calls at this point play in the Mountain West.....and no team in that league brings in a market we don't already have a presence in via a university or a substantial number of alums (I don't know the exact numbers, but I'd bet all four California schools have substantial San Diego alumni bases-Cal and Stanford have played SDSU on the road the last couple years, and I'd bet UCLA has too recently) outside of MAYBE New Mexico.

Here's the solution-the conference has to give up a chunk of the rights to the networks to somebody who can function as a TV partner. This shouldn't be that hard, as ratings for this sport have increased all year.
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I honestly don't think this post could be anymore wrong. It has been rehashed over and over again in the expansion thread but the issue isn't as much a tv partner as much as the passion/engagement the conference has. If the PAC 12 had a tv partner the revenues would increase but it would also be split. If the Pac gets on directv the teams would be right at the same level as the big-12 which I think it all you can really ask for. Our number are a year behind but RG said in the financial article a couple days ago that they received $31 million this year from the conference and DTV is estimated to be worth about $2.5 million per school.

Nebraska, Michigan state, even Purdue are put in those time slots because they bring ratings, not because of the tv partner they have. Look at the ratings for games posted by awful announcing, the sec and big-10/Norte dame, dominate those numbers by a long shot.
 
onealcd said:
I honestly don't think this post could be anymore wrong. It has been rehashed over and over again in the expansion thread but the issue isn't as much a tv partner as much as the passion/engagement the conference has. If the PAC 12 had a tv partner the revenues would increase but it would also be split. If the Pac gets on directv the teams would be right at the same level as the big-12 which I think it all you can really ask for. Our number are a year behind but RG said in the financial article a couple days ago that they received $31 million this year from the conference and DTV is estimated to be worth about $2.5 million per school.

Nebraska, Michigan state, even Purdue are put in those time slots because they bring ratings, not because of the tv partner they have. Look at the ratings for games posted by awful announcing, the sec and big-10/Norte dame, dominate those numbers by a long shot.
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You are wrong. Purdue does not bring ratings. USC vs Texas was the 3rd rated game in week 2 and UCLA - Memphis was the 4th rated game the same week. Out drawing ND-Boston College and Wisconsin -BYU. Late games (8 PM ET) can have big ratings if they are featured on ABC or ESPN other than that it is a ratings wasteland. CU - UW ratings were worse than Virginia - Boise State which is a direct result of the late kickoff. Are you going to tell me a rematch of the PAC 12 Championship game and both teams undefeated would not be a compelling matchup over Virginia - Boise State. Sorry I do not buy that. It got poor ratings because of a bad time slot and a lower tier network - plus it was not even a national telecast. Peterson is upset because he knows it impacts recruiting and also polling.
 
TSchekler said:
Number of teams, by conference, in Top 25 recruiting rankings for 2017 and so far in 2018:

2017
SEC - 9
Big 10 - 5
Pac 12 - 5
ACC - 3
Big 12 - 2
Ind - 1

2018
SEC - 9
Big 10 - 4
Pac 12 - 4
ACC - 4
Big 12 - 3
Ind - 1

Obviously, the SEC is head and shoulders above everybody else in recruiting, which makes sense considering they are in the biggest hotbed, but the Pac 12 is right there with the other conferences, even though they have late starts.
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N/a - misread the first statement.
 
onealcd said:
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As I posted elsewhere, my complaint is not about tv exposure. I get it and I favor the Pac-12 committing to a Friday night "Pac-12 After Dark" game for this reason. My complaint is that it's tough on the fans who go to games and they should work hard to make sure that teams are playing at least half its games at family friendly times.
 
Buffnik said:
As I posted elsewhere, my complaint is not about tv exposure. I get it and I favor the Pac-12 committing to a Friday night "Pac-12 After Dark" game for this reason. My complaint is that it's tough on the fans who go to games and they should work hard to make sure that teams are playing at least half its games at family friendly times.
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I totally agree with that. The 8 o'clock games are killers for attendance and for the fans who go to the games.

Personally though, considering that it's an hour later in Washington, Chris Petersen's complaint isn't about what's best for the fans.
 
Buffnik said:
My complaint is that it's tough on the fans who go to games and they should work hard to make sure that teams are playing at least half its games at family friendly times.
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It's not about you. It's about Tv. You are just a convenient prop in the background.

Personally, I kind of like these later start times. I get all my soccer games in and then then get to watch the Buffs. Its a win win for me.
 
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