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Pac 12 network / direct tv (PACN now on fuboTV streaming)
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If they would throw the money and stop the 10 o'clock ****, I guarantee you it would be better for all of us.
we can easily do 4+ days of that ... but you have to do it right
go at rope drop and then head back to the hotel around lunch and lounge by the pool and then head back to the parks for dinner and the nighttime firework/shows ...
Brilliant analysis.
This is the right plan. We did this at Universal last year and it was wonderful. Right in the middle of Spring Break. Huge crowds, but we managed to avoid the crowds and had probably the best family vacation ever. There's something really nice about sitting at the pool drinking a beer when you know you'll be heading back into the park on another two hours.
I could just say you're an lomph loompa and call it a day. That's no fun even for you.
If I weren't so emotionally attached to my current sig line...
FlatironsBuff
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You guys got it. We went to WDW in November for ten days. Many days we didn't even leave the room until 1 pm. Probably spent as much time swimming as in the parks. Would leave if lines got too long and go do other things. Made sure we had Fastpasses for the longer line rides, and go at times where crowds were light so we could do popular rides over and over. We have the Vacation Club so annual passes are discounted, rooms are basically paid for already. We had days we went to the ocean, Kennedy Space Center, Aviation museums. Actually came back rested.
So when people say 'I can't do more than 3 or 4 days there' I usually reply 'Your probably spend more time in the park in 3 or 4 days than we do in 8 to 10 days'. We also, because of the annual passes, will wait a stretch without going, then buy the passes, go for 8 to 10 days in November, go again in March, then again in October. So we will use the annual passes for 3 or 4 trips. When you take a 600 dollar pass and split it up by 30 days, that helps.
I can also see as the kids get older we will go less, and start to widen our trips to the EU and other places. And you can use the vacation points for other places too, so we will take advantage of that in the future. As I age my criteria for a decent trip is a good bed and a hot tub or hot springs so I can relax and soak.
GoBuffs08
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Another thing with WDW if you stay on property at one of the resorts they will close different parks on a rotation to everyone but people in the resorts.
This makes it really easy to not feel like you need to try and cram everything into the day. We were at Animal Kingdom, the wait for Expedition Everest was over 2 hours but the park was closing to the public at 7pm. We went back to the resort swam, ate and went back to the park and the wait time was maybe 10 minutes. Rode the coaster probably 6 times. Same thing at Hollywood Studios with the Rockin Roller Coaster.
This makes it really easy to not feel like you need to try and cram everything into the day. We were at Animal Kingdom, the wait for Expedition Everest was over 2 hours but the park was closing to the public at 7pm. We went back to the resort swam, ate and went back to the park and the wait time was maybe 10 minutes. Rode the coaster probably 6 times. Same thing at Hollywood Studios with the Rockin Roller Coaster.
I am done with PAC12 and DirecTv and their bitch fight... **** them both. I will watch CU games and other PAC12 games without getting a dime to the conference our DirecTv..It is their own fault if they want to lose revenue. Idiots, it could be such a plush and financial gain to both, if they weren't so damn selfish and stupid.
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P12 had a lot more to gain from that deal than DTV did. Cable/Satelite subscribership peaked years ago and has now hit an accelerating rate of decline. So, adding the P12N doesn't move the needle for getting new subscribers for DTV.
Cable, Satellite ‘Cord-Cutting’ May Hit 2 Million this Year
A stunning 6,200 American subscribers per day became “cord-cutters,” ..as millennials canned their pay-TV cable and satellite subscriptions in the second quarter of 2015. The Financial Times reported that approximately 566,000 discontinued accounts were logged from April through June.
The combination of steeply rising cable and satellite prices, and greater free choice on the Internet, is driving cord-cutting. The average cost of basic cable service has increased at an average compounded annual rate of 6.1 percent each year since 1995–more than twice the rate of inflation, according to the U.S. Federal Communications Commission.
Rather than responding to uncompetitive costs, however, cable and satellite providers are about to add an extra “fee” for sports. Consequently, Time Warner Cable is adding a $2.75 monthly charge, while Cablevision Systems Corp, satellite-TV and phone companies’ TV services will add $2 to $6 fee.
The cable/ satellite services plead they are just passing along the more expensive costs of distributing sports events that are their largest audience interest. Pay-TV providers claim they paid ESPN about $6 each month per subscriber last year, up from $4.77 in 2011. The cost by is projected to hit $8 per user by 2018.
With millennials leading the cord-cutting revolt, media stocks took a $50 billion plungelast week, after Walt Disney cut its earnings guidance, followed by Viacom, Fox and CBS reporting declining advertising revenues.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...ite-cord-cutting-may-hit-2-million-this-year/
The future of TV is streaming and apps. I am not sure how this plays out for the sports world but already the MLB is prepared to have 15 teams streaming in market games starting this season.
The Pac having more control of their distribution might be more favorable for them in a couple years. If the Pac is not already partnering with a provider to get a package online then they are fools.
I HATE streaming. Can't stand it. I get pauses, glitches, intermittent HD, no ability to record, pause, replay, etc.
Cut the cord in December and have not missed anything other than a very high Directv bill. Same thought with the Buffs but by the time they are worth watching again I think Pac will be online.
Next season will probably just borrow a family members creds if I need to watch them on the Pac.
Yeah. I'm sure it'll get better.
SuperiorBuff
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Who are you using for internet?
Comcast Xfinity. We've tried the trial periods for several of the major streaming services and it works great. Had to get a Roku box, though, as our "smart" tv wasn't capable of fast enough Internet for effective streaming.
Yep my rates went up with DTV again and I had finally had enough.
Read an article the other day that said that the providers response to losing customers is to raise rates to make up the difference. I am not an expert but I would assume that will only worsen the problem they face. Sports fans are loyal and are holding these bundles together but even the sports fan has a price point that they will not cross.
I havent gotten mine yet. When it comes that will probably be enough to push me over the edge and cancel.
How much did prices increase?
We cut the cord a few months ago and here are some tips that might help some people.
#1 - before you cut the cord change your number with DTV or your current provider, especially if you have DTV. Get a free google voice number and change that to your service number. They will haunt you like a overly attached girlfriend after a bad breakup. I got calls for months asking me over and over why I canceled my service. Save yourself the headache and dump in the garbage.
#2 - find a family member that will share their login info for cable tv. This will make streaming much easier.
Here is my ranking of streaming devices:
#1 - Channel Master Antenna DVR. For the price of two months of direct tv, you can buy a DVR that you can hook up a hard drive to. You get a two week on screen program guide, a better picture than satellite, and all the functionality of recording that you had with the other systems. This will only work for you major channels (channel 2, CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox). There are like 55 other channels, but they all suck. There are two tuners and will only work in one room, so there is some downside, but you can adjust pretty quick. You can also pause and rewind live tv which is great.
#2 - Apple TV. It doesn't have the volume of channels that you have with ROKU, but the ones that are there work good. Add in HBO for $15 a month and get access to some great shows. The biggest downside is the remote is absolutely awful. I am using a gen 1.
#3 - ROKU. lots and lots of channels. I am using a gen 2 for this and a lot of channels have problems streaming. The cool thing with these streaming devices is you can log in with someone else's cable codes and watch things like ESPN (except with someone's comcast login because they block it because they suck). I was really surprised to see the ACC app in Roku and really found that PAC12 dropped the ball on this one.
#4 - laptop - really got used to watching shows on my laptop. Lots of shows stream for free with a few ads and others you can login to an online portal and watch online.
#5 - everything else, tablets are hit and miss getting content to load properly. I have a android tablet, and ipad and a fire and all are mediocre. The chromecast is interesting as it has channels that others don't like Food network, but it still kinda sucks.
Once you cut the cord, you will probably never go back. There is just so many channels that are garbage, that it doesn't make sense to keep paying. Live sports will take a hit that I haven't truly worked around, but between the PAC12 network on my laptop and bronco games over the antenna, I have been pretty happy.
#1 - before you cut the cord change your number with DTV or your current provider, especially if you have DTV. Get a free google voice number and change that to your service number. They will haunt you like a overly attached girlfriend after a bad breakup. I got calls for months asking me over and over why I canceled my service. Save yourself the headache and dump in the garbage.
#2 - find a family member that will share their login info for cable tv. This will make streaming much easier.
Here is my ranking of streaming devices:
#1 - Channel Master Antenna DVR. For the price of two months of direct tv, you can buy a DVR that you can hook up a hard drive to. You get a two week on screen program guide, a better picture than satellite, and all the functionality of recording that you had with the other systems. This will only work for you major channels (channel 2, CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox). There are like 55 other channels, but they all suck. There are two tuners and will only work in one room, so there is some downside, but you can adjust pretty quick. You can also pause and rewind live tv which is great.
#2 - Apple TV. It doesn't have the volume of channels that you have with ROKU, but the ones that are there work good. Add in HBO for $15 a month and get access to some great shows. The biggest downside is the remote is absolutely awful. I am using a gen 1.
#3 - ROKU. lots and lots of channels. I am using a gen 2 for this and a lot of channels have problems streaming. The cool thing with these streaming devices is you can log in with someone else's cable codes and watch things like ESPN (except with someone's comcast login because they block it because they suck). I was really surprised to see the ACC app in Roku and really found that PAC12 dropped the ball on this one.
#4 - laptop - really got used to watching shows on my laptop. Lots of shows stream for free with a few ads and others you can login to an online portal and watch online.
#5 - everything else, tablets are hit and miss getting content to load properly. I have a android tablet, and ipad and a fire and all are mediocre. The chromecast is interesting as it has channels that others don't like Food network, but it still kinda sucks.
Once you cut the cord, you will probably never go back. There is just so many channels that are garbage, that it doesn't make sense to keep paying. Live sports will take a hit that I haven't truly worked around, but between the PAC12 network on my laptop and bronco games over the antenna, I have been pretty happy.
depends on the package you carry... mine is going up $8 monthly the best I can calculate.
buffalo1
Club Member
RalphieSpeaks and other cord cutters. What do you do for timeshifting CU games? I am often not home/available during CU away football and basketball games. I'm not sure how cord cutters always make themselves available at the exact time. Maybe my schedule is more complex. Consider me confused (and still paying Comcast).
Tante makes me even LESS inclined to revert to streaming. What a pain in the ass. "Hey, honey, let's sit around the laptop and watch a movie." Forget that ****.
So, the DTV increases range from no increase for the "Family" package to $8 for the "Premier" package. The mid level packages will increase from $4 to $5. I have the "Choice XTRA Classic package. It's going up $5 but it is in the "retired" list. I can keep it as long as I'm in "good standing." There are 6 packages which are "retired" and not available to new subscribers.
The premium add ons, PICK 3, PICK 4 & PICK 5 are going up $2, $3, & $4 respectively. The TV fee is going up $0.50. The Regional Sports Fee (Huh?) is going up $0 to $1.97 depending where you live. For Jens, I guess, their "World Direct packages are going up a buck or two. They are also hitting Filipino's and Koreans for a couple of bucks, haha.
So, the DTV increases range from no increase for the "Family" package to $8 for the "Premier" package. The mid level packages will increase from $4 to $5. I have the "Choice XTRA Classic package. It's going up $5 but it is in the "retired" list. I can keep it as long as I'm in "good standing." There are 6 packages which are "retired" and not available to new subscribers.
The premium add ons, PICK 3, PICK 4 & PICK 5 are going up $2, $3, & $4 respectively. The TV fee is going up $0.50. The Regional Sports Fee (Huh?) is going up $0 to $1.97 depending where you live. For Jens, I guess, their "World Direct packages are going up a buck or two. They are also hitting Filipino's and Koreans for a couple of bucks, haha.
I don't watch a lot of movies and watch virtually no network TV. Almost all my viewing is sports related. My wife watches more than I do but a lot of her viewing is available over air.
If I could get a good streaming service with the PAC12 network I would be on it in a flash.
For DBT if you have a solid stream it isn't necessary to watch it on your laptop. Many of the new TVs will stream directly, for those that don't it is ridiculously easy to connect the laptop to the TV. Your laptop probably has an HDMI plug in it.
If I could get a good streaming service with the PAC12 network I would be on it in a flash.
For DBT if you have a solid stream it isn't necessary to watch it on your laptop. Many of the new TVs will stream directly, for those that don't it is ridiculously easy to connect the laptop to the TV. Your laptop probably has an HDMI plug in it.
I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. I've streamed from my laptop to my big screen using a thunderbolt to HDMI connection. For some reason, and I have to take my MAC into Apple I guess, is that the sound doesn't stream. I also get spotty HD. Kind of on again/off again as well as brief pauses. Also, the streams I've done don't allow things you take for granted with satellite: Recording, Pausing, Replay, Slow Motion playback, etc.
I don't DVR games. I am one of those that have to watch live but CU has been bad enough that I am not concerned yet. If they got good and I was forced to miss a game I am going to have to come up with something.