Maxer
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Me too man - it's looking like I'll be there as well. As we get closer going to depend on you guys for hotel/tailgate recommendations...
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Pac 12 TV Deal with FOX+ESPN, worth $250m per year according to NYT
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Me too man - it's looking like I'll be there as well. As we get closer going to depend on you guys for hotel/tailgate recommendations...
superdeluxe
Member
I feel with any kind of championship/tournament you should try to select a destination spot. Vegas is a neutral site, as well as a destination site..I mean who wants to go to Seattle in March? or Denver?
Maxer
Member
This them?
How'd you get ahold of my fraternity composite?
superdeluxe
Member
If it is not on at least the extended digital (Not the basic cable, but the cable where you get all the music channels, and things like game show network). Then at worst it will be a part of the sports package (Where you have NFL network etc)
He's talking about the digital network. They could do it a couple of ways. They could make the Pac-12 network a premium channel, not tethered to the sports pack, and include the digital package as part of the deal (like HBO does, for instance). For example, 100/year gets you the Pac-12 network and access to all the digital content. They could also do like you propose and make the network part of a sports tier and charge separately for the digital content. I guess, they could also make the digital content free and try to get revenue from advertisements only.
Maxer
Member
Or do it like ESPN3, where if you receive the Pac-12 Network on your cable/satellite package, you are able to access the online content.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
If that happens, no reason to subscribe to cable and I don't subscribe to cable these days myself but get ESPN3 due to being a Comcast high speed internet customer. It's possible that Comcast helps the Pac-12 establish the Pac-12 Network.
buffs
Well-Known Member
I was hoping for for all games to be online via Pac 12 and for the weekly national games to be on the same channel every week.
Also, I am not sure BuffsNYC is off in his estimate $99 per month. Granted, I am an outlier as I watch everything via Internet (no cable or satellite). But adding cable w/ESPN and Fox sports channels is $720 per year. I'm sure there will be some charge for Pac 12 network. Plus there are no guarantees all of them will carry it. Our local provider does not have the Big 10 network. This is why I was hopeful for a pure online solution as it would be easier to see and all money I pay would go to the Pac 12 directly. Hopefully this is possible in part.
Also, I am not sure BuffsNYC is off in his estimate $99 per month. Granted, I am an outlier as I watch everything via Internet (no cable or satellite). But adding cable w/ESPN and Fox sports channels is $720 per year. I'm sure there will be some charge for Pac 12 network. Plus there are no guarantees all of them will carry it. Our local provider does not have the Big 10 network. This is why I was hopeful for a pure online solution as it would be easier to see and all money I pay would go to the Pac 12 directly. Hopefully this is possible in part.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
I agree too and I believe this will lead to the end of BuffsTV's online live streaming of contests if not BuffsTV itself.
btbuff
It's an inside joke
I would be very surprised if there was not an online option to the PAC-12 network. Even if it is a small charge I think it will exist, Scott has shown a willingness over the last couple years to go in this direction.
Lets hope it works out and we continue to get everything we want.
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BuffNut99
Club Member
Ted Miller interviewing Larry Scott
"Exapansion had an exponential effect [on the size of the deal]..." You're welcome, Pac 10.
"Exapansion had an exponential effect [on the size of the deal]..." You're welcome, Pac 10.
Junction
Club Member
And based on their Rockies coverage, it sucks massive, melty giant chocolate salty donkey balls...
I think that dish is offered at The Fort.
btbuff
It's an inside joke
How about the terrible "Big 12" network coverage of basketball games. I swear they used one Iphone camera to track the ball up and down the court.
Needless to say, better be in mother ****ing HD.
BuffNut99
Club Member
Do you doubt Larry Scott at this point?
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
It's the future and Larry Scott is balls deep in it.
GoBuffs08
Well-Known Member
What follows is material I’ve gather today from a phone conversation with Larry Scott (following his press conference and teleconference), discussions with multiple sources and interviews with Cal AD Sandy Barbour and Stanford AD Bob Bowlsby.
* First up: Some clarification on the money.
Yes, $3 billion divided by 12 years is $250 million … and $250 million divided by 12 schools is $20.8 million.
But that’s the per-school average over the life of the contract, which, as these things always do, has an escalator clause:
The league’s Year One payout from ESPN and Fox is approx $180 million, and that ramps up to well over $250 million in the final years.
So every school is not going to get a check for $20.8 million at the end of Year One.
* Also in regard to the $20.8 million figure: keep expenses (both school expenses and league expenses) in mind.
For instance, some schools will have to spend money to buy back the multimedia rights they had previously sold to partners such as IMG.
So from a net-revenue standpoint, it’s not wholly accurate to say the 10 current members are instantly quadrupling what they had been receiving.
After costs/overhead, Bowlsby said, Stanford currently receives about $5 million in TV revenue from the league. In the early years of the new deal, it will receive about $15 million.
But at the back end, the per-school distribution could be close to $25 million. Net.
* The conference has not determined where the Pac-12 Network will be located or who will manage it (same goes for management of Pac-12 Media Enterprises).
Both matters are contingent upon the production/distribution partners.
* Scott said the league has several options for the network.
One is to start from scratch (the cost would be about $100 million).
Another is to take over, and rebrand, an existing network — Fox College Sports, for example.
(My guess is Scott will go down this path, although not necessarily with a Fox-owned channel.)
* Scott said the league will have a major announcement in about 60 days but didn’t get specific.
Has to be the details of the Pac-12 Network.
* Scott also said the league will control where it stages the basketball tournament. He plans to “reach out to different cities” to gauge their interest.
* The Pac-12 Network will have “first pick” in the selection of football games twice during the season.
Having quality content on the network is enormously important for leverage in potential carriage fights with distributors.
* How was the Pac-12 able to finalize its media deal now, in early May, when most projections — including mine — thought it would be weeks from now?
According to an industry source, the NHL’s decision to partner with Comcast, and not ESPN, forced ESPN to get serious with the Pac-12.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/colleg...ils-on-the-money-the-pac-12-network-and-more/
* First up: Some clarification on the money.
Yes, $3 billion divided by 12 years is $250 million … and $250 million divided by 12 schools is $20.8 million.
But that’s the per-school average over the life of the contract, which, as these things always do, has an escalator clause:
The league’s Year One payout from ESPN and Fox is approx $180 million, and that ramps up to well over $250 million in the final years.
So every school is not going to get a check for $20.8 million at the end of Year One.
* Also in regard to the $20.8 million figure: keep expenses (both school expenses and league expenses) in mind.
For instance, some schools will have to spend money to buy back the multimedia rights they had previously sold to partners such as IMG.
So from a net-revenue standpoint, it’s not wholly accurate to say the 10 current members are instantly quadrupling what they had been receiving.
After costs/overhead, Bowlsby said, Stanford currently receives about $5 million in TV revenue from the league. In the early years of the new deal, it will receive about $15 million.
But at the back end, the per-school distribution could be close to $25 million. Net.
* The conference has not determined where the Pac-12 Network will be located or who will manage it (same goes for management of Pac-12 Media Enterprises).
Both matters are contingent upon the production/distribution partners.
* Scott said the league has several options for the network.
One is to start from scratch (the cost would be about $100 million).
Another is to take over, and rebrand, an existing network — Fox College Sports, for example.
(My guess is Scott will go down this path, although not necessarily with a Fox-owned channel.)
* Scott said the league will have a major announcement in about 60 days but didn’t get specific.
Has to be the details of the Pac-12 Network.
* Scott also said the league will control where it stages the basketball tournament. He plans to “reach out to different cities” to gauge their interest.
* The Pac-12 Network will have “first pick” in the selection of football games twice during the season.
Having quality content on the network is enormously important for leverage in potential carriage fights with distributors.
* How was the Pac-12 able to finalize its media deal now, in early May, when most projections — including mine — thought it would be weeks from now?
According to an industry source, the NHL’s decision to partner with Comcast, and not ESPN, forced ESPN to get serious with the Pac-12.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/colleg...ils-on-the-money-the-pac-12-network-and-more/
furk... not as awesome as i thought... oh well still bad ass
I refuse to pay for cable, if it's not online I go to a bar. I'm wondering what the pac 12 digital package will cost.
Still sounds like a pretty sweet deal. Good work Larry Scott!
So it is a sweet deal. The way I understand it, the deal is for both football and basketball?