ahoelsken
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Make the call and see where he's at mentally regardless.
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Paul Chryst - Former Wisconsin HC
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The problem with guys who are coordinators currently is that they don’t have the cachet to demand certain conditions be met. Guys like Chryst, Mendenhall and Herman can all make demands and get them in writing whereas others won’t have that leverage. I believe we need somebody like Bzdelik who forced the admin to do certain things before he would agree to come here. Get that in football and we have a pathway back to success. Just hiring another up and coming coach won’t get us there.
He supposedly reduced his buyout from $20m to $11m, so he could go coach immediately, without the buyout being offset by new salary. He'll be a HC again next year somewhere making around $5m or more, so he'll make up that $9m within the first 2 years of his new contract.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
No doubt. I like him, but I like Herman and Mendenhall a little more because I feel like they already have the TX/CO/CA networks. If Bronco can get Anae to follow him here, that would be phenomenal.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Good call.
lawdogg
Club Member
His Chryst stance is weird, but I actually don’t think Lewis is a bad suggestion.
His Chryst stance is 19-19 at Pitt (maintained, if not slightly worse than before he got there) and he again, maintained an already built Wisconsin program by continuing to recruit the top OL in the state and region and run the same system that has made Wisconsin what they are. He doesn't think he would have the same ability at a place like Colorado, which I get, and would definitely be a question mark. He also says Wisconsin is an easy job because of the easy B1G West, which OK, but the only program Wisconsin hasn't beaten in the B1G during Chryst's tenure is Ohio State, I believe. I think his analysis and reasoning is a little surface level in some ways, but I understand it.
I don't know, after thinking about it, I think Chryst is a great choice. Immediate respectability and great network, imo. His track record with DC hiring is incredible. His offenses away from Wisconsin were also impressive.
Just seems like an easy, high-floor answer
Just seems like an easy, high-floor answer
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One Grossman, one gross cup?
If RG is really just looking at HC experience then Chryst would have to be at the top of his list. He seemed pretty average at Pitt when he was there and I think that has to be more comparable to CU than what he did at Wisconsin.
You have to make the call and gauge interest, but I am not sure I'd be super pumped about this.
You have to make the call and gauge interest, but I am not sure I'd be super pumped about this.
He is very down on Herman because of boosters telling him he had lost the respect of HS coaches in the state. That put up a major red flag for me in regards to their insane fans and boosters. However, I've enjoyed his responses and info on a lot of the candidates.
I also find it pretty hilarious that he reached out to RG and LC in 2020 to give "his suggestions" and they never returned his email.
Sounds like CU's top candidate to me!
I read the whole piece. I think there were some uncomfortable truths from a lot of angles, including mismanagement by Chryst and the school.
Something not said that probably needed to be said is Barry Alvarez was given way too much power for too long and now Wisconsin has been caught flat-footed in a rapidly changing landscape.
Something not said that probably needed to be said is Barry Alvarez was given way too much power for too long and now Wisconsin has been caught flat-footed in a rapidly changing landscape.
Let's say Leonhard gets the job. What do you do with the offense if you're him? Do you stick with what Wisconsin has always done, which inherently attracts the elite OL and RBs, or do you move to a more modern college offense and risk losing the uniqueness that has made Wisconsin?
I think you have to modernize.
Makes me rethink Chryst at CU a bit. If he truly just isn't in tune with modern recruiting, even the basic stuff like social media, graphics, etc, I'm not sure there's much upside. He would need to be given a solid budget to hire a non-coach recruiting coordinator who knew what they were doing
This is exactly what has happened within CU and CSU over the past 4 years. Both schools have absolutely ABYSMAL recruiting operations. I posted a couple years back about high profile in-state recruits who would show up at camps and no one on staff knew who they were. After they showed out someone would approach them and admit "Sorry, we don't have a 'book' on you yet." Meanwhile, these recruits already had multiple P5 offers. One kid in fact, had both parents who attended CU and had grown up with season tickets wanting to play for the Buffs. He signed with Oregon and is now at Wisconsin.
Some guys know football. Karl Dorrell hired Chris Wilson.
Wow - the recruiting piece definitely has me rethinking Chryst.
We NEED a dynamic recruiter, just as much as we need a rethinking of the admissions process re: transfers.
Colorado is looked at as a joke by way too many kids these days. We need someone who understands how to get things turned around in these kids' heads.
We NEED a dynamic recruiter, just as much as we need a rethinking of the admissions process re: transfers.
Colorado is looked at as a joke by way too many kids these days. We need someone who understands how to get things turned around in these kids' heads.