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Phil DiStefano's got to go
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Express your concerns to the Regents. It helps if your last name is "Solich".
I'd suggest making a scene the next ext time one of you sees him stuffing his pie hole at the Louisville Carrabba's.
As Buffalo_Brad learned, Phil isn't interested in having a conversation with fans unless you're ready to write a $50 million check so there's no reason to engage with him. Just be a dick and let him know he's hated by the CU community.
Agreed that maybe the way it is being spun that it was Bruce's choice or that there was a fund raising issue, but i just don't buy it.
Not having the balls to fire Mike right after the Butch Jones incident? but instead doing it in the dead of summer after he's potentially made an incredibly expensive game changing hire (for better or for worse) is the sort of thing a career administrator does, not a business man. Add to that under Bohn's watch 6 of the 9 largest gifts in CU athletics history came in, including a 1 million dollar donation just a month ago, and that fund raising jumped from 7.6 million last year to 11.8 this year, a 4.2 million dollar bump. The Phil fires him for falling short of expectation, and promptly claims we'll double the amount raised in 4 years? at the rate of growth for last year we'd have more than doubled it in three years. That is the sort of striving for excellence we've had since long before Benson was hired.
Phil Distefano is the problem, he is the one surviving constant of the downward spiral that has been the last 12 years, be it in athletics or academics.
Buffenuf
massive tool
Two words for DiSteff (can't we just shorten our references to him to "Shemp"?) = Education professor
Wait......a paisan eats Italian food at a chain restaurant? :wow: With all the great Italian restaurants in Boulder??? WTF??? He should sh*t-canned for that gaff alone!!!
Wait......a paisan eats Italian food at a chain restaurant? :wow: With all the great Italian restaurants in Boulder??? WTF??? He should sh*t-canned for that gaff alone!!!
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So begin writing letters and Op Eds. Benson ultimately makes the decision, correct? He will need to feel public pressure to make the change. How about the students themselves, are they more important as the public perception? I didn't ever think about the Chancellor when I was going to school.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
http://chancellor.colorado.edu/biography
Check out DiSteff's bio...he graduated from Ohio State...how can the hell he graduate from a school that takes its football seriously then botch it at another school whose fans take football seriously?
Check out DiSteff's bio...he graduated from Ohio State...how can the hell he graduate from a school that takes its football seriously then botch it at another school whose fans take football seriously?
maybe they have a free courtesy shuttle?
Daaaaaaaamn!
lawdogg
Club Member
Well, don't I have egg on my face. Here I thought that our downward spiral was the result of a great many factors. Apparently this one guy is the source of all our ills... C'mon guys, you'll get no argument from me that Phil has been lackluster at best in his positiong as it relates to athletics and academics, but we've been singing the same tune for years. First, it was all Hawks fault, and as soon as we got him out of here, things were going to be different. Then, it was all JE's fault, and once he was fired, then everything would be right with the world. Now, it's all Phil's fault, and as soon as we get him out, it's smooth sailing. Am I the only one who thinks that a lot of people have had a hand in sending us on this downward spiral (yes, that includes Saint Bohn the Great and Phil the incompetent, but many others). Our problem has never been as simple as one guy.
Yeah, but we got rid of the rest of those guys.
lawdogg
Club Member
No problem with Phil getting the axe, just disagreeing that he has been the problem with CU.
Don't disagree with you one bit. Even if NuMac manages to turn football around quickly, I just can't see the entire athletic department growing and thriving while he's still there.
You are right that it is never as simple as one person. At the same time some people have a lot more influence than others. Some are responsible for providing leadership, setting expectations, developing and allocating resources, determining, influencing, and/or administering policy that relates directly to the success of the organization.
Phil is at or near the top of the pyramid in all these areas. When all the other variables have changed and the results have stayed the same then you have a pretty good idea which variable to change to impact your outcomes. Phil has been the constant, time to make him the variable and replace him.
Somebody asked what he has accomplished. Here's one thing- he has found people to throw under the bus for every shortcoming at the campus. He's managed to deflect blame for any problems away from himself.
Two stories come to mind about Phil. First, he's speaking at a Rotary conference a couple years ago. He says that one of the biggest challenges they face is keeping Freshmen enrolled. He says the dropout rate is just too high for incoming Freshmen. I'm like "Phil, that's how CU is structured". It's MEANT to be that way. Did he not get the memo? Second, right after the incident with Brad at the football game, I'm walking into the practice facility pre-game for a basketball game with Brad and one of his friends. Phil is walking out while we walk in. Brad says, in a voice loud enough to be heard by everybody in the county "See that little fellow there? That's Phil Distefano!"
Not a fan of Phil. I will grant that Bohn didn't do the perfect job, but he was far less a hindrance to the success of he athletic department than Phil has been.
I'd be interested in knowing what some of the other CU Boulder employees think of him.
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Two stories come to mind about Phil. First, he's speaking at a Rotary conference a couple years ago. He says that one of the biggest challenges they face is keeping Freshmen enrolled. He says the dropout rate is just too high for incoming Freshmen. I'm like "Phil, that's how CU is structured". It's MEANT to be that way. Did he not get the memo? Second, right after the incident with Brad at the football game, I'm walking into the practice facility pre-game for a basketball game with Brad and one of his friends. Phil is walking out while we walk in. Brad says, in a voice loud enough to be heard by everybody in the county "See that little fellow there? That's Phil Distefano!"
Not a fan of Phil. I will grant that Bohn didn't do the perfect job, but he was far less a hindrance to the success of he athletic department than Phil has been.
I'd be interested in knowing what some of the other CU Boulder employees think of him.
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That's the thing. After a while and after we've seen every person who works under him fired for poor job performance, doesn't it become patently obvious that the problem is at the top of the organization? Phil always says the right thing (or at least the thing that neither side of the debate will be wholly offended to hear while both are somewhat dissatisfied). He's a politician. But he does nothing. He'd be perfect for the Illinois statehouse where he could vote "Present" 90% of the time.
lawdogg
Club Member
Maybe I'm just channeling my inner BB2 and playing the contrarian. I wholeheartedly agree that Phil is an appropriate target of our collective ire at this point. What I can't agree to is that all of our problems would be solved if we'd have just gotten rid of Phil and kept Embree, Bohn, et al. The firings that have taken place up to this point are justified in my opinion, so I won't use Phil's ineptitude as an excuse for those other folks' incompetence. I can concede that there is yet at least one firing that could/should be made. Ask yourselves though, if the people who Phil reports to don't find any fault with his duty performance, and/or refuse to take action against him, what does that say about their level of competence?
I think one *could* make the argument that if it weren't for Phil, Embree would have never been hired in the first place. Bohn would have been allowed to do his job and hire an actual qualified head football coach, and that both Bohn and said unknown coach would still be employed today. Is there any way to prove this? Of course not. It's my preferred alternate reality, though.
well Phil pre-dates Bruce....
While I think all of the firings you listed were justified and needed, and certainly dont believe firing Phil solves all of our issues; who is a constant that presided over and was involved with many of those hirings?
Would removing him solve our issues? Not at all, would it have prevented issues from occurring? again probably not.
But -
Is continuing to let a guy with a 12 year run of failures, who doesnt seem to get it, and spends time selling us outright lies, a problem?
Yes, yes it is.
Not much to add to this but that I cannot stand the freaking wimpish asshat. Time to go
I thought he was "that little fellow".
fatbuff
Member
You forgot the extra year that Hawkins got. Phil is the single biggest contributor to the downfall of the program.
lawdogg
Club Member
I respect your opinion on this one, but we'll have to just agree to disagree regarding Bohn. My take is that he was either actively involved in the many miserable decisions that resulted in our football program becoming the national embarrassment that it is, or he became so irrelevant to the people who were making the decisions that he never earned a seat at the grown up table where football decisions are concerned, essentially being emasculated by the likes of Dr. Phil. Either way, he was no longer a fit for what was needed to get things turned around.
We are in agreement on this point.
89BUFF89
Well-Known Member
Phil seems more interested in not rocking the boat than doing anything that might require large testicles. We need strong leadership that includes athletics as a priority and sorry but Phil just doesn't project that. Maybe Bruce can push him along short term but I agree we need new blood, fresh ideas.
I don't even know about the "fresh ideas" part. I'd be happy if I started seeing some thinking and action from inside the box. We don't even get that. This is so far from being a situation where we need creativity. We simply need competent application of tactics, strategies and practices that have been long-established as being effective for building the academic prestige and athletic accomplishments of a university.