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Pick your top candidates for DC!

Choose your favorite of top 4 candidates (according to Rivals)

  • Gibbs

    Votes: 19 17.0%

  • Pendergast

    Votes: 61 54.5%

  • Orlando

    Votes: 13 11.6%

  • Seto

    Votes: 19 17.0%
  • Total voters
    112
The more I think about and read about Gibbs, the more excited I am about his abilities. Here are some numbers that I put together via ESPN.

2014 Defensive Comparison:
Houston gave up 19.5 ppg (#11) - CU gave up 39 ppg (#120)
Houston forced 40 turnovers this season (19 picks/11 fumbles) - CU had 11 (3 picks/8 fumbles)
Houston recorded 26 sacks this season - CU had 22
Houston had 36 passes deflected - CU had 45
Houston had 1 defensive TD - CU had 0

One stat I thought was interesting:
Houston recorded 453 solo tackles and 448 assisted tackles for 901 total. CU recorded 511 solo tackles and 236 assisted tackles for 747 total.

This tells me that either A) Houston is more generous with their statistics than CU or B) Houston had a much more aggressive approach of running to the ball and making gang tackles. Due to the fact that they forced 4 times the turnovers that CU did this season, my gut tells me that they were much more aggressive and flew around to the ball.

2013 Comparison:
21.8 ppg (#20) - CU 38.3 ppg (#115)
43 turnovers (25 picks/18 Fumbles) - CU had 21 (11 picks/10 fumbles)
31 sacks - CU had 17
2 Defensive TD's each
587 solo tackles and 460 asst tackles (1047 total) - CU had 575 solo and 270 (845 total)
 
USC's defense under Pendergast in 2013:
21.2 ppg (#16)
22 turnovers (17 picks/5 fumbles)
35 sacks
48 pass deflections
525 solo tackles and 384 asst tackles (909 total)
1 TD
 
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lawdogg said:
I think a lot of us have Rivals subs, but certainly appreciate your diligence in keeping us updated about what your compatriots who are really in the know are saying. While we're waiting to figure out who the new guy will be, just having some lighthearted banter about other coaches floating out there. I know, maybe we should start another thread for the folks who just want to do that.
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Well the thread calls for ABers to pick their top candidates so have at it regarding non-top 4 candidates, I was just letting you know that while it is fun to dream, new names are highly unlikely to be considered at this stage.
 
Buffskier said:
The more I think about and read about Gibbs, the more excited I am about his abilities. Here are some numbers that I put together via ESPN.

2014 Defensive Comparison:
Houston gave up 19.5 ppg (#11) - CU gave up 39 ppg (#120)
Houston forced 40 turnovers this season (19 picks/11 fumbles) - CU had 11 (3 picks/8 fumbles)
Houston recorded 26 sacks this season - CU had 22
Houston had 36 passes deflected - CU had 45
Houston had 1 defensive TD - CU had 0

One stat I thought was interesting:
Houston recorded 453 solo tackles and 448 assisted tackles for 901 total. CU recorded 511 solo tackles and 236 assisted tackles for 747 total.

This tells me that either A) Houston is more generous with their statistics than CU or B) Houston had a much more aggressive approach of running to the ball and making gang tackles. Due to the fact that they forced 4 times the turnovers that CU did this season, my gut tells me that they were much more aggressive and flew around to the ball.

2013 Comparison:
21.8 ppg (#20) - CU 38.3 ppg (#115)
43 turnovers (25 picks/18 Fumbles) - CU had 21 (11 picks/10 fumbles)
31 sacks - CU had 17
2 Defensive TD's each
587 solo tackles and 460 asst tackles (1047 total) - CU had 575 solo and 270 (845 total)
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You cannot compare stats between CU and Houston. CU had to play some of the best offenses in the country...Oregon, Arizona, UCLA, CAL, USC and Colorado State (sorry they had a top 20 offense). Houston only played BYU (#26) and Cincinnati (#27) which had top offenses and they gave up 523 yards (above BYU's average) and Cincinnati had 500 also above their average.
 
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Buffskier said:
The more I think about and read about Gibbs, the more excited I am about his abilities. Here are some numbers that I put together via ESPN.

2014 Defensive Comparison:
Houston gave up 19.5 ppg (#11) - CU gave up 39 ppg (#120)
Houston forced 40 turnovers this season (19 picks/11 fumbles) - CU had 11 (3 picks/8 fumbles)
Houston recorded 26 sacks this season - CU had 22
Houston had 36 passes deflected - CU had 45
Houston had 1 defensive TD - CU had 0

One stat I thought was interesting:
Houston recorded 453 solo tackles and 448 assisted tackles for 901 total. CU recorded 511 solo tackles and 236 assisted tackles for 747 total.

This tells me that either A) Houston is more generous with their statistics than CU or B) Houston had a much more aggressive approach of running to the ball and making gang tackles. Due to the fact that they forced 4 times the turnovers that CU did this season, my gut tells me that they were much more aggressive and flew around to the ball.

2013 Comparison:
21.8 ppg (#20) - CU 38.3 ppg (#115)
43 turnovers (25 picks/18 Fumbles) - CU had 21 (11 picks/10 fumbles)
31 sacks - CU had 17
2 Defensive TD's each
587 solo tackles and 460 asst tackles (1047 total) - CU had 575 solo and 270 (845 total)
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How were Baer's numbers in San Jose?
 
BlackNGold said:
You cannot compare stats between CU and Houston. CU had to play some of the best offenses in the country...Oregon, Arizona, UCLA, CAL, USC and Colorado State (sorry they had a top 20 offense). Houston only played BYU (#26) which had a top offense and they gave up 523 yards (above BYU's average).
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I had the same initial thought, but you have to consider that teams within a conference are generally likely to have similar talent, which makes Houston looks better. The realization that CU has a talent deficit, though, only makes Baer look better in that light.

There are no easy answers. Hell, Pendergast and others may look like good recruiters mostly because of the programs they've been in, even if they're relatively weak. The pros get it wrong when armed with a whole lot more information than even the "insider" fans - it cracks me up to see some of the declarative statements that are tossed out. I just hope we make a good hire, I'll cheer for them and the rest of the Buffs until I can't.
 
I read somewhere that Pendergast is probably a better fit for the NFL because he supposedly hates to recruit and runs a pro-style scheme. I was initially more excited about Pendergast than Gibbs, based purely on defensive resume, but we need a recruiting boost in the worst way so this has me swaying.
 
BlackNGold said:
You cannot compare stats between CU and Houston. CU had to play some of the best offenses in the country...Oregon, Arizona, UCLA, CAL, USC and Colorado State (sorry they had a top 20 offense). Houston only played BYU (#26) and Cincinnati (#27) which had top offenses and they gave up 523 yards (above BYU's average) and Cincinnati had 500 also above their average.
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Very good point!!!
 
BlackNGold said:
You cannot compare stats between CU and Houston. CU had to play some of the best offenses in the country...Oregon, Arizona, UCLA, CAL, USC and Colorado State (sorry they had a top 20 offense). Houston only played BYU (#26) and Cincinnati (#27) which had top offenses and they gave up 523 yards (above BYU's average) and Cincinnati had 500 also above their average.
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You can compare adjusted statistics and efficiency statistics. Not perfect but they can be used for comparison sake.
 
'Tini said:
You can compare adjusted statistics and efficiency statistics. Not perfect but they can be used for comparison sake.
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I love how you want to start an argument over every little thing. You respond with changed context to try to start an argument. Within the context of the post I was responding to and the statistics he used - they are not comparable. You maybe should seek help, otherwise divorce and job loss could be in your future.
 
BlackNGold said:
I love how you want to start an argument over every little thing. You respond with changed context to try to start an argument. Within the context of the post I was responding to and the statistics he used - they are not comparable. You maybe should seek help, otherwise divorce and job loss could be in your future.
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I was in no way trying to start an argument, simmer down. I understand what your post meant and what your intent was.
 
Does Pendergast like short linebackers? Because we have short linebackers.


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Since we want to get rid of top 4 candidates thread, let's go here. Maybe an announcement has not been made because we are hiring from Oregon?!?!

How about John Neal from Oregon and he brings on Bernardi's son with former Buff Cha'pelle Brown coming on as well? Then he hires Hobby?


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I am happy that I have at least 5 threads I can voice my displeasure at the lack of a DC until every other DC position has been filled.
 
onealcd said:
There weren't concerns about Gibbs from a coordinator standpoint.
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Exactly. He's really good. Problem was that he wanted total control with kind of a "head coach of the defense" role. That's a good fit at TTU where the HC has no interest in coaching defensive football. Here, with a HC who is a heck of a DC, it wasn't a good fit. I think both MacIntyre and Gibbs realized that.
 
Buffnik said:
Exactly. He's really good. Problem was that he wanted total control with kind of a "head coach of the defense" role. That's a good fit at TTU where the HC has no interest in coaching defensive football. Here, with a HC who is a heck of a DC, it wasn't a good fit. I think both MacIntyre and Gibbs realized that.
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I thought there were also concerns about his commitment to recruiting and it appears Mac and RG realized that had to improve drastically with the next hire.
 
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