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SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
The margin was huge. Sure the Big 12 is tough but they had 3 gimmies to start the season, we had 1 in EWU and almost lost. EWU would have beaten all of the Nubs OOC opponents except VT.
Plus they play all of 4 road games last year?!?! I can't believe that's allowed.
Why do you consider 9-4 WMU and 6-6 SJSU "gimmes" yet give CU credit for playing CSU?
EWU would have beaten WMU? Time for a reality check.
Because I don't see everything through your biased views does not make me any less of a fan than you. I've followed the Buffs since the early 80s, and I'll always be a huge fan. However, me being a fan does not make me oblivious to reality.
For example, someone dogging NU for playing a 9-4 non-BCS team yet giving us credit for playing a 7-6 non-BCS team.
It's ridiculous, regardless of which team you root for.
If we want to get this thread back to talking solely about the Buffs, that's fine. Let's just be a little realistic.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
SJSU not a gimmie? Who needs the reality check?
Frankly, the fact the NU played 8 home games tells me all I need to know about the difficulty of their schedule. They're one notch ahead of KSU in the scheduling department.
You do. I never said they weren't a gimme.
And anyone who thinks Eastern Washington was a better team than Western Michigan needs to sober up.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
You're right, it's tough playing a MAC team at home. Then to show how tough NU was, they scheduled NMSU at home too. Way to sack up. Mullen could have beaten NMSU.
CSU is no juggernaut, but they're an instate rival and we played them in the first game of the season on a nuetral site.
CSU is no juggernaut, but they're an instate rival and we played them in the first game of the season on a nuetral site.
Point is, you can't dog NU for playing 9-4 WMU and give CU credit for playing 7-6 CSU. There's no question in my mind NU schedules too weak of competition, as does UT. Those two programs should be above that. But apparently they're not.
However, that does not change the absurdity of you claiming EWU is better than WMU. MAC teams can be pretty decent. So can WAC teams. So can CSU at times.
That's fine, and you also believe Eastern Washington would beat Western Michigan.
Agree to disagree on both accounts.
Junction
Club Member
And it looks like you'd be at least somewhat right about that...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm
It's kind of an ugly looking table, but it's the final Sagarin stats from the 08 season. CU ranked at #72 :sad1: but their SOS was #19. UNL ranked #23, their SOS ranked at #38.
Mania is right on the Western Mich/Eastern Wash issue, though. WMU ranked at #79 in these rankings, EWU was #121.... :huh:
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
Comparing opponents is pretty dumb and innacurate for telling who is better IMO.
SJBuff
Club Member
yet we do it every year...:keule:
In the preseason they would be favored but we have a lot of questions to be answered on both sides of the equation here.
NU needs to find a QB and there's still going to be questions about that until the VA Tech game is played. Then the world will know what NU has.
Pelini (Um... Me) will have the Defense playing tough for sure. I expect the offense will be solid under Watson IF the QB play is solid. It's not like Watson developed a lot of QB's here at CU in his six years. Thank God Joel Klatt gave up baseball..... A couple JC kids provided quick fixes but every recruit we gave a scholarship did not make the grade.
Agreed on all accounts.
I agree with you that the jury on Hawkins is still out. I have my doubts too but not enough to make me think hes not all that hes cracked up to be. After this season that opinion could change.
As for NU, we could go into that game 0-10 and probably turn out our best performance of the year. That game is about catching lightning in a bottle.
I thought we should have gone after Bo. He'll have that team playing at a high level, imo.
LilBunky
Guest
With all the gaps in recruiting and other parts of the entire show that the great GB left, its a wonder we still have a D-1 program to complain about!
Anyone recall SIX O-linemen as th number DH started with? How 'bout NO friggin QB? How about a touchy-feely S&C coordinator who focused on technique rather than strength? Our best DT starts as a 6'2' 240 lb RB; our best LB as a safety; our best RB won't run north-south; wide receivers were nowhere to be seen ??? Down so low it looks like up to me!
Most of you---yeah Syko, I'm talkin' to you!---gloss over or willfully forget just how awfully low this program was after that 100-6 debacle presided over by the great GB---he who had the nerve to tell us to lower our expectations, then wants a contract renewal without incentives! Wotta joke!
Yeah, its pivotal and progress has been shown in the foundation and will be shown on the field. Time to quit bitchin' and close ranks behind our Buffs.
As for Bo, there is a reason a dozen or so major programs passed on Bo as HC. He got real lucky with kNU last year, with 8 home games and the usual cream-puff OOC, plus he had a very good senior QB. Too, Bo wouldn't last 5 minutes in front of the generally hostile-to-CU denver media, without stomping on some poor reporter---think Bill Mallory without the charm!
Where has progress been shown? In "potenial"? I know it definitely hasn't been shown in on-field results.
Take another shot of Kool-Aid, though!
AlferdJasper
Well-Known Member
LilBunky
Guest
I dunno Fusker...maybe in improved spelling from the kNU-grad pizza delivery guys like you, who make our lives in COLO easier?
I'll take those results against OU, WVA, T-Tech, even the lowly "corncobs" as good signs for starters, but I'm not satisfied with those alone.
BUT I am willing to look at the "Big Picture---you know, the one you get when you pull yer head outta yer nether region?
GPAs ---up! Youth camp attendance ---up! Fundraising---up! Number of schollie O-linemen---up! Number of quality RBs---up! Average age and maturity---up! Understanding of Hawk's concepts and system---up! "Potenial"--heck, even potential---way, way up!
Don't need "kool-aid", but won't drink Husker hemlock either!
wow lil bunky is firing at people
buffsyko
Club Member
Could you please get out of Peter-Pan land and join the rest of us..
First off, as soon as I read "foundation" and "progress", I realized you must have been listening to dan hawkins motivational tapes while sleeping.
How long you going to blame a coach who's been gone for 4 years now? It's year 4 in the Hawk regime, lots of BIG talk little results. The foundation hasn't been set, a winning season might lay the first concrete floor.
Progress? Yeah, there was progress in 2007 but it went back to square one last year. Stop blaming barnett and start holding the coach who's been here going on 4 years and hold him accountable.
We've heard your speech for 3 years now, just win.
Well said. It's time to win, no more excuses. It's time to expect more than a losing season. I don't care if a losing season contains a win over a Top15 opponent, it's still a losing season. We should not let our expectations get so damn low.
As far as LilMunky...don't get your panties in a wad.