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And what makes you think the coaches are confident in Noyer? I posted several times in fall camp that Montez was clearly in a class all by himself and Noyer didn't stick out and was even relgated to third team when I was there behind Lytle. There are plenty of QBs that can run up the score on ****ty defenses in the second half of a blowout, that doesn't really mean anything in terms of how good of a QB he is and how he is developing.
Ok, lets simplify this. Do you find out more about a potential future QB by having him run drills and scout team with a no contact jersey, or by having him run your actual offense against a conference opponent?
I'm not going to worry about the coaches "seeing what they have" because they are stuck with what they have, short of going out and getting a Grad Transfer. I just want all our backups to get actual game experience, so we aren't sitting here worried about our 3rd, 4th and 5th string players being forced into a starting role mid season like we are with our CBs and WRs right now.
You find out the most about your quarterback in practice every day, how he handles the complexity of the offense, especially against players that know exactly what they are facing. Scout team against the starters is also a good way to develop a QB against a better defense than he will see all season.
Mac isn't going to run his offense in the second half if they are up by 28 points and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. You can get reps in for backups without throwing the ball and extending the game to increase risk of injuries and show good sportsmanship.
Your entire argument in this post is contradictory. So if Lytle got reps against Washington it would be huge, but if he gets any reps against OSU it doesn't mean ****?
Well, that's kind of the entire point that people are bitching about. Also, a QB taking snaps and handing off is actually pointless.
My thought is that if you come out of this season and do not feel confident that Noyer or Lytle are a long term answer, that might change your approach on how you groom Stenstrom and Evans. Or yes, if Montez ends up taking a look at the NFL, you hit the grad transfer market.
It's not contradictory at all. Reps in the second half of a blowout against terrible teams/defenses don't teach you much of anything in terms of playing when it matters. The crowd is out of it, the other team has given up, he wouldn't be playing with the ones. All of this experience people want to point out is pretty minimal when you think about it.
There is really only three games this year where it matters so you are complaining about 30-45 passes against two of the worst defenses in the country (in garbage time) and a FCS team. I never said you figure out everything about a QB in practice, just that those reps in garbage time against those teams don't really teach you anything either.
If you actually believe that Lytle wouldn't want to go in late and game and show the coaches what he is made of, you're crazy. These kids are competitors. He wants his chance to go out there and lead the team down the field.
It's not pointless for the other 10 starters on the field.
I never said Lytle doesn't want to go out there and show the coaches what he has. Of course he wants to play. Coaches have a lot more to worry about than a backup QB wanting to go chuck it around a bunch at the end of a game.
Lol What. The. ****. Man?? So it's not pointless for every other 2nd and 3rd team player to get meaningful snaps against an awful defense in a blowout "when they've quit and the crowd is out of it", but it IS pointless for the QB to get actual passing reps in the same situation?
More to worry about? I thought you said it was all pointless??
I said you can still get reps in by running the ball, draining the clock, not running up the score and trying to limit injuries. Throwing the ball does the exact opposite of that.
Not sure what you are saying here.
Agree. Lay the points.
CU desperately needs reps running their O, not some ball control, contrived O that won’t beat Wazzu or Utah later
Yes. You did say that. I'm just wondering why you're cool with those guys getting reps, but don't care to see the most important position on the team getting reps. Just a very strange argument you're making, but I still like you.
Apparently you missed the point.
Haha because when you get those guys reps and you mostly run the ball in the second half you are draining clock, not showing a lot of you offense and not scoring a bunch of points on a team that has already lost.
Oh I didn't miss the point. You think the head coach wants to throw in a young QB when the team hasn't even pulled away yet? I don't really see that happening.
