I don't know if it is harder to believe you tore your ACL at 8 or played sports without one. There is no leg muscle that can replace it.
I guess you are 25 now?
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PRich playing this fall?
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I don't know if it is harder to believe you tore your ACL at 8 or played sports without one. There is no leg muscle that can replace it.
I guess you are 25 now?
Obviously he's 35. Duh...
33 but close GB.
Tante it is true. I tore it wrestling in the 3rd grade (I think that is 8 maybe a little older) it was misdiagnosed due to my young age and lack of MRI tech. I was on crutches for a month or so and then went on with my life. I played sports and other activities with occasional "tweaks" until the last tweak pissed me off enough to see a specialist, who informed me that I did not have an ACL and likely hadnt for a long time. I was a little skeptical until I tore my other ACL a few years later. There is no mistaking that sound and that feeling and the only other time I had felt that before was during that wrestling match in 3rd grade.
So it can be done and your muscles can do a pretty good job of keeping your knee stable w/o the ligament.
If it helps I can look around and see if I still have the quarter sized chunk of meniscus that had been floating around in my knee most of my life and send it to you in the mail.
Tante it is true. I tore it wrestling in the 3rd grade (I think that is 8 maybe a little older) it was misdiagnosed due to my young age and lack of MRI tech. I was on crutches for a month or so and then went on with my life. I played sports and other activities with occasional "tweaks" until the last tweak pissed me off enough to see a specialist, who informed me that I did not have an ACL and likely hadnt for a long time. I was a little skeptical until I tore my other ACL a few years later. There is no mistaking that sound and that feeling and the only other time I had felt that before was during that wrestling match in 3rd grade.
So it can be done and your muscles can do a pretty good job of keeping your knee stable w/o the ligament.
If it helps I can look around and see if I still have the quarter sized chunk of meniscus that had been floating around in my knee most of my life and send it to you in the mail.
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its 49 min after noon... get shootin ansel adams
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Ohhh I want it I want it!!! I'll trade you my metal I had in my foot.:thumbsup:
Blair from the Spurs doesnt have an acl in one or both of his knees. Heard them say it, I dont remember if it was one or both. Lol I guess it dont matter, the guy is playing at the highest level there is missing some parts. John Elway played hurt most if not all the time. That first Superbowl, he had a shoulder problem and a torn bicep tendon, if I recall. It was bad enough where his bicep was just hanging loose, his throwing arm too. Some people can take pain more than others I guess.
I assumed you were 25 because why else would you get it fixed if you did everything you wanted?
For added difficulty, he also played most of his career with Ron Zapollo's head inserted substantially up his arse. Ron was a big part of why I hated the Broncos as much as I did while I was at CU.
We need to change you from "Club Member" to "Zapollo's People". :lol:
I wonder if Coach is going to have to have a presser on P-rich's rehab/playing status at some point soon?
Tufts was hurt early in the season, IIRC. I think he only played a couple games his Sr. year, which would have given him almost a year to rehab.
And yet Ron retained that distinguished partially gray coiffure, instead of his hair going skidder brown....
That is what is so impressive about Woodson's injury to me. That dude isnt ordinary though. As far as a db that could do it all, he is right up there at the top of the list all time. We need PRich is the worst way but not if he isnt ready, thats not something to jack with if not. I guess we'll just have to see if he can go at some point.
Good that means he has full extension already. Sounds like he is going to PT
YGDTYELSE (Elway Lore). He played his entire career without an ACL in his left knee, which is extremely relevant.
Except that he's not a WR. Which is extremely relevant.
I'm not getting excited. I think it would be a mistake.
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dogbuff
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For what it's worth, I tore my ACL in both knees and can say with confidence that the surgery and rehab have improved drastically. Recovery time has everything to do with the rehab. The issue is the graft strength is very strong immediately after the surgery but then weakens as it begins to adhere to the bone. This is because it's attached to the bone with screws (directly after the surgery) but then the screws dissolve after a couple months (creating a period when the graft is vulnerable). So, if he kicks butt and rehabs the heck out of it immediately after the surgery he has a chance to build up his muscle strength to a point where he "might" be cleared to play. If he takes the rehab slowly (this happens because of pain usually, not because of any sort of physical restriction), he'll need a full year (if he has meniscus damage this might delay the recovery)...
This is why you should tell people who have to go through the surgery to rehab it as hard (obviously following your PT's program) as possible EARLY and not to take it easy. The longer you wait the more your muscles atrophy and the less you can do when the graft starts to weaken...
Having said that, my biggest fear is him doing it to his other knee. One thing I was told (which came true) is that if it happens to one knee you stand a greater chance of it happening to the the other knee. The way he hurt it in practice (with no physical contact) tells me the bone in his knee is kind of tight around his ACL. This means there isn't as much room for the ligament to bend and stretch if the joint is tested in a unnatural way. I think this is what happened to Matt Russell (although I think he suffered more than just a torn ACL)... I kind of wish they went into his other knee and cleared away the bone around his other ACL when they did his surgery. I never hear of doctors doing this so there must be a good reason why it's not done... It would be interesting to hear why...
This is why you should tell people who have to go through the surgery to rehab it as hard (obviously following your PT's program) as possible EARLY and not to take it easy. The longer you wait the more your muscles atrophy and the less you can do when the graft starts to weaken...
Having said that, my biggest fear is him doing it to his other knee. One thing I was told (which came true) is that if it happens to one knee you stand a greater chance of it happening to the the other knee. The way he hurt it in practice (with no physical contact) tells me the bone in his knee is kind of tight around his ACL. This means there isn't as much room for the ligament to bend and stretch if the joint is tested in a unnatural way. I think this is what happened to Matt Russell (although I think he suffered more than just a torn ACL)... I kind of wish they went into his other knee and cleared away the bone around his other ACL when they did his surgery. I never hear of doctors doing this so there must be a good reason why it's not done... It would be interesting to hear why...
Dog buff do they always attach with screws? I could have sworn mine was different and my doc drilled a hole in my bone and laid a piece of bone across the hole with the patella graft attached to it. Or it could have been the percs and I made it all up. Either way I have convinced myself it is true.
dogbuff
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Mine were both patella grafts and they were screwed in... maybe yours were done with the "screw-less" approach used by master furniture builders/orthopedic surgeons! I'm kidding, I honestly have clue what the other options are... I'm pretty confident yours was screwed in... The morphine drip was nice, wasn't it?
no the morphine drip was awful for me. Blood started creeping into the tubes and I had to go to the ER and get it removed.
So I read more about how they attach and it looks like they make tunnels in both the tibia and femur to attach the new acl. I found this and I think this is what they did for me:
So they create the tunnel and then lay the tunnel core across the tunnel opening and tie the graft around it. They then use the screws.
btw: My ortho surgeon was my buddies dad and I saw his house and his furniture was awesome, so you might be on to something with the whole furniture thing.
dogbuff
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Thanks tante, that's great information... Yep, it seems like most orthopedic surgeons are men; maybe it's because of the power tools ; ) Sorry to hear about your experience with the drip... How's your knee holding up now? Mine are great except for the one that had a meniscus tear. That one can predict the weather.
my biggest problem right now is when my dick slaps against it when I am walking, otherwise the knee is great, no swelling, snowboarding etc. I can't dunk a basketball, but I couldn't do it before, so I'm not sure the knee is the reason.
My ACL repair was 25 years ago. Middle third of the patellar tendon was used to replace the ACL and then screwed down into the bones. It still holds and is actually tighter than my "good" knee. I would hope, however, they have improved technique. I was back on my feet and functioning normally, although not in competitve sports, by the following January. Surgery was in October. I still ski, mountain bike and coach my kid's rec league teams. If PRich hits the PT, it is conceivable he plays.
Didn't realize you were that short, must take you half a day just to walk down the block. At that height dunking a basketball is out of the question on a kiddy hoop.