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QB play

TheRoyale90 said:
It's f*cked up to call him sh*t. He's a warrior. He's not a good quarterback but he's the best we have.
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I appreciate & respect the Hawk love, but are you kidding me: Cody Hawkins is a downright piss poor qb. He's a hard worker and a warrior, but all that gets you in D1 Big XII football is a juicebox and orange slices
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
And who will you play at QB?

One of the three guys who couldn't beat Cody out? That makes a lot of sense.
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Nope keep playing cody and keep losing. Hansen is redshirting and according to you,can't play in this offense so I don't know how the hell we are suppose to improve the qb play.
 
I wouldn't say he's the best we have, let's atleast put in the other guys and give them a real shot at some game time and see what they can do.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Halfway decent QB play tonight and the Buffs are winning by 2 touchdowns.

Cody Hawkins just is not a very good QB right now.
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Your nuts.. Little Hawk isn't good, but you are betting that are defense is going to stop WVU with the game on the line.. Wasn't going to happen.


this game was nothing but a scrimmage for WVU and their players.
 
JimmyBuff said:
Your nuts.. Little Hawk isn't good, but you are betting that are defense is going to stop WVU with the game on the line.. Wasn't going to happen.


this game was nothing but a scrimmage for WVU and their players.
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I didn't say CU would win the game - but a decent QB and CU would have been winning by 2 TDs in the 1st half. There were at least a couple wide open TD's that Cody Hawkins just couldn't complete the pass (or threw an INT).
 
PurifydatA$$ said:
I appreciate & respect the Hawk love, but are you kidding me: Cody Hawkins is a downright piss poor qb. He's a hard worker and a warrior, but all that gets you in D1 Big XII football is a juicebox and orange slices
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but do you really believe Hansen or Evans or Lobato or whoever is going to come out there and play lights out? We saw Hansen last year... not good. Evans is apparently not at all ready for prime time. Lobato is a freaking walk on. Enough said.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
I didn't say CU would win the game - but a decent QB and CU would have been winning by 2 TDs in the 1st half. There were at least a couple wide open TD's that Cody Hawkins just couldn't complete the pass (or threw an INT).
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Yeah, I can turn around and say if WVU doesn't fumble the ball around they are up by 14 points too..


Little Hawk isn't the answer, but this program has many more glaring problems than him (WR, a defense with players that can run, a kicker)
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Halfway decent QB play tonight and the Buffs are winning by 2 touchdowns.

Cody Hawkins just is not a very good QB right now.
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With the full game under his belt, I don't know how you play Cody next week. He had some moments, but overall, his decision making was right up there with Jamarcus Russel, and accuracy is about the same.
 
valdezj said:
Hansen can come in and make a difference. He just needs some PT under his belt. Come on, it's not like it can be any worse. :smile2:
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Yeah he came in last year and was replaced when he stunk up the joint against Missouri and aggy. .
 
valdezj said:
Hansen can come in and make a difference. He just needs some PT under his belt. Come on, it's not like it can be any worse. :smile2:
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Why? He couldn't make a difference in practice.

All these people wanting Hansen just crack me up. He isn't good enough to beat Cody Hawkins but somehow he is going to turn the offense around. That makes zero sense.
 
TheRoyale90 said:
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but do you really believe Hansen or Evans or Lobato or whoever is going to come out there and play lights out? We saw Hansen last year... not good. Evans is apparently not at all ready for prime time. Lobato is a freaking walk on. Enough said.
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That's the key. We have no one at the QB position better than Cody. Hansen's recruiting rankings were lower than Cody's. Everyone acts like Hansen is this burner, but his 40 time is actually slower than Cody's. Of all the people on the roster or coming in, the one who appears to have the best arm & mechanics is Nick Hirschman, who is currently a senior in high school. We need to recruit a JUCO QB, who will probably have to take 38 classes starting right now to get in.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Why? He couldn't make a difference in practice.

All these people wanting Hansen just crack me up. He isn't good enough to beat Cody Hawkins but somehow he is going to turn the offense around. That makes zero sense.
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Bingo.. We have no quality QB's.. Little Hawk was only supposed to be a stop-gap until Hawk got a big time QB.. Hasn't happened..
 
TheRoyale90 said:
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but do you really believe Hansen or Evans or Lobato or whoever is going to come out there and play lights out? We saw Hansen last year... not good. Evans is apparently not at all ready for prime time. Lobato is a freaking walk on. Enough said.
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Think about it: this season is done. Over. No bowl. Garbage recruiting class. Put in one of our freshmen qbs and get them game experience for next season, so at least we're not in this same horrible position next year.

Clearly Cody can't play ball. Enough. Time to move on.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Why? He couldn't make a difference in practice.

All these people wanting Hansen just crack me up. He isn't good enough to beat Cody Hawkins but somehow he is going to turn the offense around. That makes zero sense.
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Except that the coaches said they were neck and neck. That means he graded the same as Cody in practice, doesn't it?
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Fact is, Hansen doesn't fit the offense we run.

if we ran an offense where the QB's feet were a weapon - he'd probably be a nice QB. But with this offense, he's a liability, not a weapon.
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any offence can use a guy that can make plays with his feet. Even in a drop back if everyone is covered you can make some big plays by taking off.
 
Have always heard that Coach Dayan is a numbers guy...looks hard at stats...Over the long term...The numbers just dont add up...Buffs have had lowest QB rating in Big XII three seasons running...To add insult...Of the pittance of offense that CU puts up in the passing game most of it is McKnight...Coach Dayan, Coach Dayan there are 9 other guys on the offensive side of the ball....has to be at least one other playmaker.
 
Y'all can talk all you want bout Hansen not fitting the offense, and not being better than Cody.

Fact is, the staff thought enough of Cody's play and Hansen's ability that he WAS going to start this week. He certainly can't be much worse.
 
Hansen won't learn the reads on the bench. We are now officially playing for next year.

Cody cannot execute the screen pass. He had Sumler for a large gain and 1st down in 3Q and can't execute. Too many wobblers.

Hansen may be a step back, but we got to see if one step back can eventually mean 2 steps forward.
 
I'm with Jimmy on this. If Hansen was the answer he would have won the job. Hawk does NOT tailor his offense to his players strengths. Of the possible replacements Clark Evans is the only pocket type quarterback with the skill set that Hawk covets. I don't think he's ready for prime time but if you want a change so bad then what you're asking for is that we burn Evans' red shirt and get him in there. This would be a situation where he either comes out as a Matt Ryan type rookie phenomenon (10% chance) or comes out and gets his confidence beat out of him like David Carr (90%) chance. Still want to do this?
 
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