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Recruiting Positional Needs (based on graduation)
- Thread starter Buffnik
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scoob
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A good kicker (say 75 percentile) in college football has to be worth 10-15 points per season compared to an average kicker. A great kicker probably 20 points or more. Other than QB is there any other position where just one good player can have have such a great replacement value?
No reason CU shouldn't be able to land one of the top 5-10 kickers in the country at 5400 feet every 3-4 years if an effort and priority are made to do it.
DiggerBuffs
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We obviously miss Toby's expertise
Toby Wong?
BuffLuke80
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Well I hope Diego has improved a lot.
I wouldn't count on it. Kickers are what they are. It's pretty uncommon to see a kicker be awful one year and good the next.
I'm encouraged about defense and offense next year. I'm scared to death by our special teams.
BuffLuke80
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Who is that other kicker we got? Didn't we add some walk on? We can't wait on Diego to be consistent. Got some momentum going here and need to keep it going. He can't be bricking 35 yarders.
Kickers I know equate it to the golf swing. Very easy to go thru a stretch of God-Awful if something is out of sync. Many can get it back quickly, some can't. If it gets deep in their head, it's tougher. While I think there's risk here, I wouldn't go nearly as far as the above.
scoob
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Brandon McManus? Buffs need to get whomever turned that guy around on 36 westbound, stat.
aik
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Somehow I manage to forget about the specific bad kicks, though. What I do remember are Oklahoma in 2007 and West Virginia in 2008, and our coaches lucked into those kickers. Imagine being tied with a team with the name value of those two and having a top Kohl's or Sailer guy putting on the cleat to go kick you one.
aik
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Sure, but he was Broomfield recruit and in 2003 so I think the CU brand was a bit stronger and on his radar more than it has been for the locals lately. I don't think Barnett had to make as hard a sell to get him on campus as would, say, making a trip to Florida for Garrett Rivas' signature during the same cycle.
Well, there are two things that can cause a kicker to enter into suckitudeness. One is technical and the other is mental. A technical glitch can be fixed. A mental one, like the tendency to choke under pressure, is a lot tougher. The question is were Diego's issues technical or mental? I think they were technical and that's where coaching comes in.
College head coaches don't usually hire a special teams coach specifically for technical knowledge on kicking. They assign one of the staff coaches. It'd be like having some guy who watches a lot of golf try to help Jordan Spieth fix his swing. Hopefully our kickers have good private coaches like a David Treadwell or someone.
College head coaches don't usually hire a special teams coach specifically for technical knowledge on kicking. They assign one of the staff coaches. It'd be like having some guy who watches a lot of golf try to help Jordan Spieth fix his swing. Hopefully our kickers have good private coaches like a David Treadwell or someone.
Diego's issue was technical, which caused a mental issue. So it ended up being both. But from what I understand, once the technical tweak was done he was able to build back confidence that carried from the left hash into everything he is doing. I think he's going to have a good senior year.
Me too.
BuffLuke80
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Bro I hope you are right. Kicking in practice is one thing, games are another. If he gets the yips again, where do we go?
Graham
BuffLuke80
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That's who I couldn't remember, thanks.
cu62nu36
fascist tool
Looking at the commitment list as it is today, this is what the priorities are:
1) A really big nasty NT to replace Tupou. I don't think Lopez is good enough, Franke big enough or Tuiloma ready. Make that 2 big nasties.
2) 3 blue chip OL's. No more gray-shirt projects please(we've already got Pursell & likely Paige). I do like moving Vaughn out of the GS to a RS. He dwarfs McChesney.
3) 2 DT's to replace Carrell & Kafo. Is this where Sparaco is slated?
4) At least 2 more DE/OLB like Pookie Maka from last year to replace Gilbert & others. Is this where VanBeast is slated? Would Like to get 2 or 3 more difference-makers here.
5) Another ILB or 2 to go along with Newman if Falo is really coming back. If not then 3 more.
6) Another TE to go along with Olver.
7) As many 4 star CB's, S's and RB's that we have remaining room for.
8) Maybe take a flyer on a K and a LS if they're really good.
1) A really big nasty NT to replace Tupou. I don't think Lopez is good enough, Franke big enough or Tuiloma ready. Make that 2 big nasties.
2) 3 blue chip OL's. No more gray-shirt projects please(we've already got Pursell & likely Paige). I do like moving Vaughn out of the GS to a RS. He dwarfs McChesney.
3) 2 DT's to replace Carrell & Kafo. Is this where Sparaco is slated?
4) At least 2 more DE/OLB like Pookie Maka from last year to replace Gilbert & others. Is this where VanBeast is slated? Would Like to get 2 or 3 more difference-makers here.
5) Another ILB or 2 to go along with Newman if Falo is really coming back. If not then 3 more.
6) Another TE to go along with Olver.
7) As many 4 star CB's, S's and RB's that we have remaining room for.
8) Maybe take a flyer on a K and a LS if they're really good.
I've never really seen Graham or the walkons kick, so I don't have any idea the shape we're in for 2017.
Right now, we are at "Graham and the walk-ons".
It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
BuffLuke80
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Didn't Graham do kickoff duty last year? I know it's not a fg but what kind of leg does he have?
The book on him is that he's very accurate but 45+ yard kicks are a stretch for his leg. Like Oliver was, I guess.
BuffLuke80
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I remember CU one year using 2 kickers. A guy for short range, a guy for long range. Maybe that's what they have in mind if Diego struggles? Hopefully we just finish drives and don't have to kick much, fingers crossed. Oh and thanks Nik.
The fact that Diego won the FG job and Graham was the Kickoff specialist seems rather counter to the reasoning laid out above.
Exactly. It has never made sense to me. Which likely means the info that's been put out isn't solid because we can assume that the coaches wouldn't intentionally do something illogically stupid.