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Denver_sc said:
For reals- if RG leaves and MM stays I just might quit being a CU football fan. I'll still cheer on the basketball teams but I'm too emotionally invested in a program that is on ~year 13 of being an embarassment with seemingly no plan nor commitment to getting better.
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You are not alone in that thinking. I was so ready quit on CU football before the 2016 season and then that season happens only to be back at square one two years later.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
“Back at square one” is a bit of an exaggeration. We’re all frustrated right now, but we’re in dramatically better shape than we were when MM got here.
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Depends on the outcome of what happens to RG and MM.
 
GawainBuff said:
There was always discussion of why we were in the SEC in the first place. Answer was $$$
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The reason vandy is in the sec is the same reason that Baylor is in the B12: a conference needs a private school to get around public meeting and other "sunshine" laws, and of the private schools it made sense to add, they had the most juice (political & $).
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
“Back at square one” is a bit of an exaggeration. We’re all frustrated right now, but we’re in dramatically better shape than we were when MM got here.
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I think we are back at square one - when mm got here we were at square negative 5. I appreciate the work he's done to get us to square one, but unfortunately if he stays another season, I see us regressing to zero or even negative again.
 
I will never understand the people that say they're going to give up on the football team. At the end of the day this is where I am getting my degree. We could lose every game and you'll still find me at Folsom. I understand the frustration but good lord some of you are dramatic. Clearly you can't remember how much worse it was only a few years ago.
 
c3youngman said:
I will never understand the people that say they're going to give up on the football team. At the end of the day this is where I am getting my degree. We could lose every game and you'll still find me at Folsom. I understand the frustration but good lord some of you are dramatic. Clearly you can't remember how much worse it was only a few years ago.
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We all remember how bad it was a few years ago. We have simply raised our expectations to a point where we want more than 5 win seasons, particularly when the team starts 5-0. If you're OK with 4 or 5 wins a year because it's better than a few years ago, that's fine, but that sounds ****ing terrible.
 
skibum said:
I think we are back at square one - when mm got here we were at square negative 5. I appreciate the work he's done to get us to square one, but unfortunately if he stays another season, I see us regressing to zero or even negative again.
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Uh, ok, didn’t realize we were working on a scale that dips below zero. Maybe you should clarify where the bottom here is- is it -5? -13.7?
 
c3youngman said:
I will never understand the people that say they're going to give up on the football team. At the end of the day this is where I am getting my degree. We could lose every game and you'll still find me at Folsom. I understand the frustration but good lord some of you are dramatic. Clearly you can't remember how much worse it was only a few years ago.
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Lol dude there are a number of people who had season tickets during the Embree era (worst in my lifetime-I'm 32). We all remember needing a miracle comeback at Washington State to avoid going 0-12 that year. That said, I think this conversation is a little different than you do. We're all going to be in front of our televisions rooting our ***es off for these kids to get to a bowl game and for these seniors to win their final game at Folsom-they deserve it........regardless of the incompetence within the coaching staff. Is it worth it to some of us to spend a day in 30 degree weather watching this product right now? Thats a different conversation. For me, the answer to that is no.
 
ahoelsken said:
Lol dude there are a number of people who had season tickets during the Embree era (worst in my lifetime-I'm 32). We all remember needing a miracle comeback at Washington State to avoid going 0-12 that year. That said, I think this conversation is a little different than you do. We're all going to be in front of our televisions rooting our ***es off for these kids to get to a bowl game and for these seniors to win their final game at Folsom-they deserve it........regardless of the incompetence within the coaching staff. Is it worth it to some of us to spend a day in 30 degree weather watching this product right now? Thats a different conversation. For me, the answer to that is no.
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You are a pussy .
 
c3youngman said:
I will never understand the people that say they're going to give up on the football team. At the end of the day this is where I am getting my degree. We could lose every game and you'll still find me at Folsom. I understand the frustration but good lord some of you are dramatic. Clearly you can't remember how much worse it was only a few years ago.
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Can I assume you’re a current student? Not to sound like a cranky old man, but talk to me when going to Folsom involves more than walking down from the hill to your $10 student section seat midway through the 2nd quarter.
 
c3youngman said:
I will never understand the people that say they're going to give up on the football team. At the end of the day this is where I am getting my degree. We could lose every game and you'll still find me at Folsom. I understand the frustration but good lord some of you are dramatic. Clearly you can't remember how much worse it was only a few years ago.
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I’m guessing this is directed at me.

I’ve earned my stripes as a fan- I grew up rooting for the buffs, and I was a student from 02-06 (the long decline). My last game in Folsom as a student I stood practically alone after the student section got ejected and watched nebraska finish demolishing CU 30-3. I have had season tickets for almost every season since, including the Embree era. I’ve spent countless dollars traveling to away games and otherwise supporting the team, and countless hours obsessing over the Buffs.

If RG leaves and MM stays, it will demonstrate to me (yet again) that anyone involved with the football program that has opportunities elsewhere will leave and that CU is content with being an embarrassment. It will demonstrate to me that I care more deeply about CU football more deeply than CU does. It will not fill me with anger or disappointment. I will be filled with apathy.

If that makes me a bad fan then so be it, but thinking about keeping going with the MM makes me exhausted.
 
c3youngman said:
I'm not saying I'm okay with it. I expect change and I expect winning. But I would never give up on the team even if terrible. Just not that kind of fan.
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a big part of this is where you are in your life. flash-forward a few years-- pretend you have a wife and kids and between your job and your kid activities, your life is pretty damned full. and, you have to make time and space for the Buffs. and you keep getting kicked in the emotional nuts when you do so.

some of us that are so disillusioned have been with the program for decades. i went to my first game as a small kid in the early 70s. we've been through good, bad, horrible, and incredibly awesome in that time frame. most of us want reasons to believe and to continue to buy tickets, donate, and all the rest. but, what we need in return is hope that there may again be goodness ahead of us.

i'm not quitting on the program and most of the others like me probably won't either, but i don't call for a coaching change lightly. these guys work hard, have families, and are busting their asses. mm is a good man. he's helped us rebuild. i respectfully suggest he is not the right guy to get us further along.
 
Liver said:
a big part of this is where you are in your life. flash-forward a few years-- pretend you have a wife and kids and between your job and your kid activities, your life is pretty damned full. and, you have to make time and space for the Buffs. and you keep getting kicked in the emotional nuts when you do so.

some of us that are so disillusioned have been with the program for decades. i went to my first game as a small kid in the early 70s. we've been through good, bad, horrible, and incredibly awesome in that time frame. most of us want reasons to believe and to continue to buy tickets, donate, and all the rest. but, what we need in return is hope that there may again be goodness ahead of us.

i'm not quitting on the program and most of the others like me probably won't either, but i don't call for a coaching change lightly. these guys work hard, have families, and are busting their asses. mm is a good man. he's helped us rebuild. i respectfully suggest he is not the right guy to get us further along.
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Good PSA for not getting married or having children.
 
SINKRATZ said:
Can I assume you’re a current student? Not to sound like a cranky old man, but talk to me when going to Folsom involves more than walking down from the hill to your $10 student section seat midway through the 2nd quarter.
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Fair comment, but both my parents went to school at CU 90-94, I get to the games when gates open two hours early for front row, learned the fight song at 5 years old, and watched all of it. I understand people are disappointed in the season and wasn't calling any one person out but have been surprised to see so many people commenting across a variety of threads about giving up on the team just doesn't make sense to me.
 
c3youngman said:
Fair comment, but both my parents went to school at CU 90-94, I get to the games when gates open two hours early for front row, learned the fight song at 5 years old, and watched all of it. I understand people are disappointed in the season and wasn't calling any one person out but have been surprised to see so many people commenting across a variety of threads about giving up on the team just doesn't make sense to me.
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Your parents went to CU from 90-94 and you’re old enough to be a student at CU already? That makes me feel really old.
 
c3youngman said:
Fair comment, but both my parents went to school at CU 90-94, I get to the games when gates open two hours early for front row, learned the fight song at 5 years old, and watched all of it. I understand people are disappointed in the season and wasn't calling any one person out but have been surprised to see so many people commenting across a variety of threads about giving up on the team just doesn't make sense to me.
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It does get harder as you get older. Just like it gets harder to do things like play video games or watch as much sports in general or even go to the movies or watch SNL.

Personally, I've got a wife who wants to do family time on Saturday but doesn't really want to try to deal with minding a 10 year old -- especially if the team's bad and the weather is on the miserable side. Brings up a lot of questions not just about time but on whether it's the right place to be putting the family budget. How willing am I to fight that battle if it's becoming less fun for me and I'm witnessing bad decisions by CU that take away a lot of my hope that the future's going to be better? For what some of us spend on tickets, parking, travel and tailgating -- we're basically taking a really nice family vacation away in exchange for the what CU football delivers. Sometimes that is hard to justify.

Which leads me to join with some others here.

If the worst case happened and RG left while MM was retained for another year, I'm giving up my season tickets for football and will become a casual fan. My passion will be reserved for Men's Basketball, which my wife and son enjoy a lot more than football games anyway. No way in hell they'd see another donation from me unless it went specifically to MBB with Tad's discretion on how to spend it.
 
SINKRATZ said:
Your parents went to CU from 90-94 and you’re old enough to be a student at CU already? That makes me feel really old.
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I was there '91-'96 and have two in college now. Sadly, not at CU.
Wait, on second thought....
 
Buffnik said:
It does get harder as you get older. Just like it gets harder to do things like play video games or watch as much sports in general or even go to the movies or watch SNL.

Personally, I've got a wife who wants to do family time on Saturday but doesn't really want to try to deal with minding a 10 year old -- especially if the team's bad and the weather is on the miserable side. Brings up a lot of questions not just about time but on whether it's the right place to be putting the family budget. How willing am I to fight that battle if it's becoming less fun for me and I'm witnessing bad decisions by CU that take away a lot of my hope that the future's going to be better? For what some of us spend on tickets, parking, travel and tailgating -- we're basically taking a really nice family vacation away in exchange for the what CU football delivers. Sometimes that is hard to justify.

Which leads me to join with some others here.

If the worst case happened and RG left while MM was retained for another year, I'm giving up my season tickets for football and will become a casual fan. My passion will be reserved for Men's Basketball, which my wife and son enjoy a lot more than football games anyway. No way in hell they'd see another donation from me unless it went specifically to MBB with Tad's discretion on how to spend it.
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Nothing on me gets harder as I get older.
 
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