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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)


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Pickett was a vastly overrated draft reach to begin with. Flacco is old and is now looking REALLY old in OTAs. Both have contracts that don't carry a massive hit if they're dumped. Honestly, Gabriel was the internal spite pick, not Sanders. Gabriel MIGHT be on an NFL roster in 2025. Sanders is just going out there and doing what he's always done - play the position really well.
 
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Pickett was a vastly overrated draft reach to begin with. Flacco is old and is now looking REALLY old in OTAs. Both have contracts that don't carry a massive hit if they're dumped. Honestly, Gabriel was the internal spite pick, not Sanders. Gabriel MIGHT be on an NFL roster in 2025. Sanders is just going out there and doing what he's always done - play the position really well.
Gabriel will be on the Browns roster in 2025 and almost certainly in 2026. NFL teams don't cut 3rd round picks unless they are doing things that are illegal or immoral.

That said, and with what you said about Flacco and Pickett being correct I would be very surprised if Shedeur isn't getting starts by mid-season after the others have shown they can't.

Gabriel will end up doing what he is most qualified for in the NFL which is holding a clipboard or a tablet as the backup.
 
Maybe the best ball tapper of all time? (In case any of the idots are still saying this is a problem with Shedeur….)


How much $$ would Elway command in today's NFL?

When you look at his career stats keep in mind that the first part of his career was with Dan Reeves who tried to make the Broncos a copy of the 1960's Cowboys with a run oriented offense. Had Elway played his career with a pass oriented system.
 
I haven't known how to say this either. I often say "accuracy" but it's more than that. Think of how few drops our receivers had with Shedeur throwing. It's in the right spot at the right time while also being a very catchable ball that isn't coming in so soft that receivers are being hung out to dry. Maybe there's a word for that.
He throws a catchable ball?
 
I haven't known how to say this either. I often say "accuracy" but it's more than that. Think of how few drops our receivers had with Shedeur throwing. It's in the right spot at the right time while also being a very catchable ball that isn't coming in so soft that receivers are being hung out to dry. Maybe there's a word for that.
Thinking about what you are saying and I think the word might be "precision."

The very best of quarterbacks, even those who don't have the strongest arms, put the ball in the spot where the receiver has the best chance to catch it without giving the defender the opportunity. Even when the ball is deep or calls for a hard throw when it gets there it is catchable.

Beyond that you see QBs who not only throw that catchable ball but that enhance and protect their receivers. There are a few of these guys but the best ever at it may have been Payton Manning. He was known for a fast release but at times he would hold the ball an extra count or loft the ball to allow defenders to clear giving the receiver an easier catch with less chance of taking a tough hit. At times you see a QB deliberately throw the ball away from the receiver to lead him away from the defender and give a better chance for YAC.

When you think back to last season Shedeur had a very good corps of wideouts but think back to the number of plays when his throws made them more effective.
 
Sometimes that's also a euphemism for a QB with a weak arm, though.

Briefest way I can probably say it is: correct read, on time, accurate and with the appropriate velocity.
I think there's something that we forget about the bailer victory (and the reason why I don't like to call it a "Hail Mary").

In the final seconds of the game, Shedeur had two opportunities to tie the game with his arm (both under enormous pressure). Both times, he put the ball in the only possible spot to score (the first was dropped). That's pretty ****ing amazing.
 
Thinking about what you are saying and I think the word might be "precision."

The very best of quarterbacks, even those who don't have the strongest arms, put the ball in the spot where the receiver has the best chance to catch it without giving the defender the opportunity. Even when the ball is deep or calls for a hard throw when it gets there it is catchable.

Beyond that you see QBs who not only throw that catchable ball but that enhance and protect their receivers. There are a few of these guys but the best ever at it may have been Payton Manning. He was known for a fast release but at times he would hold the ball an extra count or loft the ball to allow defenders to clear giving the receiver an easier catch with less chance of taking a tough hit. At times you see a QB deliberately throw the ball away from the receiver to lead him away from the defender and give a better chance for YAC.

When you think back to last season Shedeur had a very good corps of wideouts but think back to the number of plays when his throws made them more effective.
"Precise" is a good word. Maybe pair that with "intentional" because whether it's within the play design or things break down into playground scramble, he never seems to panic or not have a plan.
 
I think there's something that we forget about the bailer victory (and the reason why I don't like to call it a "Hail Mary").

In the final seconds of the game, Shedeur had two opportunities to tie the game with his arm (both under enormous pressure). Both times, he put the ball in the only possible spot to score (the first was dropped). That's pretty ****ing amazing.
Very few QBs are capable of winning that game
 
I think there's something that we forget about the bailer victory (and the reason why I don't like to call it a "Hail Mary").

In the final seconds of the game, Shedeur had two opportunities to tie the game with his arm (both under enormous pressure). Both times, he put the ball in the only possible spot to score (the first was dropped). That's pretty ****ing amazing.
In the draft process teams and the media tend to fall in love with the measurables and observables. How tall, how fast, how far can he throw it, how does he look throwing the ball in shorts and a t-shirt.

What they can't measure is how does a guy understand what is happening on the field, can he anticipate where defenders are going to break.

Shedeur seems to have an ability to know not just what is happening on the field but what will happen.

As I've said before there are some draft decision makers who are going to have a hard time explaining to ownership how when they needed a QB they passed multiple times on Shedeur.
 
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