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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)

I think Shedeur is in a bad position:

The HC has him buried, is not giving him an opportunity with the 1's and barely any burn with the 2's. The HC seems set on "his" guys, and will go down with the ship when Cleveland performs like Cleveland.

The GM drafted Shedeur because the owner told him to late in the draft. If Shedeur starts, it shows the GM didn't have a plan and burned a 3rd round pick on Gabriel as well as the acquisition of Pickett. Resigning Flacco (who had a QBR of 53 last season) speaks volumes to their incompetence as well. This is self inflicted daily drama because they do not have a plan.

The owner came out yesterday and said Shedeur was drafted because he was available, but did not give him an endorsement or vote of confidence. Actually the Owner said drafting Shedeur is on the GM and the decision on who starts and is on the roster will be the HC's decision. Sounds like chaos in that bldg and poor communication. They are all pointing fingers.

Cleveland is going to mess this up, they already are by not giving the top QB in college football last year, a legit shot to earn a position. But they are giving more of an opportunity for a 5'11" QB who is not an NFL caliber QB looks. Clearly the Cleveland leadership is leaning on starting Flacco or Pickett, with Gabriel as QB3. IMO, Shedeur is the best QB on that roster and it is not even close. Despite several veterans advocating for Shedeur, it appears Shedeur's best opportunity to compete for a starting role will be on another roster, once Cleveland fumbles by releasing Shedeur (he is not going to sit on their practice squad, when they never gave him an honest opportunity).
 
BuffinCali said:
I think Shedeur is in a bad position:

The HC has him buried, is not giving him an opportunity with the 1's and barely any burn with the 2's. The HC seems set on "his" guys, and will go down with the ship when Cleveland performs like Cleveland.

The GM drafted Shedeur because the owner told him to late in the draft. If Shedeur starts, it shows the GM didn't have a plan and burned a 3rd round pick on Gabriel as well as the acquisition of Pickett. Resigning Flacco (who had a QBR of 53 last season) speaks volumes to their incompetence as well. This is self inflicted daily drama because they do not have a plan.

The owner came out yesterday and said Shedeur was drafted because he was available, but did not give him an endorsement or vote of confidence. Actually the Owner said drafting Shedeur is on the GM and the decision on who starts and is on the roster will be the HC's decision. Sounds like chaos in that bldg and poor communication. They are all pointing fingers.

Cleveland is going to mess this up, they already are by not giving the top QB in college football last year, a legit shot to earn a position. But they are giving more of an opportunity for a 5'11" QB who is not an NFL caliber QB looks. Clearly the Cleveland leadership is leaning on starting Flacco or Pickett, with Gabriel as QB3. IMO, Shedeur is the best QB on that roster and it is not even close. Despite several veterans advocating for Shedeur, it appears Shedeur's best opportunity to compete for a starting role will be on another roster, once Cleveland fumbles by releasing Shedeur (he is not going to sit on their practice squad, when they never gave him an honest opportunity).
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Owner's handling it right. Allowing the HC and GM the authority to do the jobs they were hired to do. And when the time comes, they will be fired without anyone being able to say the owner tampered with the football side of things and set them up to fail.
 
Hank said:
ESPN Cleveland posted a video of Gabriel throwing a pick in the endzone a few hours ago and it already has 2k likes. :ROFLMAO:
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He is a very generous player, makes sure everyone on offense and defense gets a chance to catch the ball.

His first pass of the training camp was a pick 6.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I'm typically not a fan of owners meddling in personnel decisions but if Stefanski is really going to roll with Flacco, I would shut that **** down immediately if I was Haslem. Maybe you have to give KS a nod that he'll be back as HC next year regardless, but the last thing I'd want as the owner of that franchise is to watch Flacco start and the team go 7-10 or 8-9 or even 9-8, miss the playoffs again and have no idea what you have in your two Rookie QBs, while also not being in position to draft one of the top QBs next year.

It's why this whole situation is such a typical Cleveland move. Splitting valuable reps all offseason between 3 or 4 guys, with most of them going to two veterans who you know aren't taking you anywhere meaningful, while your highest upside and probably highest floor QB is relegated to 3rd/4th string and the fewest reps.
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I responded to your post b/c it will be shorter. I don't think the Browns will be a good team (3-14 last year), and the worst part of their schedule is the 1st 6 games. So, I don't think it is a bad to trot Flacco out 1st, since I presume they start slow out of the gate, and he will take some hits. I feel like 7-10 would be huge reach for them. I'm not worried about Haslen meddling, since even if they have another bad season, I think Stefanski is safe during a rebuild given he took them to the playoffs 2 years ago, so he's probably not coaching for his job. Season goes as predicted (they are bad), then they want to audition QBs for fan interest and to up players trade stock.

With Pickett's hammy injury, I hope SS is in good shape in terms of getting a decent audition in a pre-season game, and show what he can do. By week 6 or 7, if the Browns are not contending, the rabid fans will be clamoring to see what a new QB can do. They know SS is the most electric and has the most upside. IMO, let SS's sit those 1st 6-7, then throw him or Gabriel in.

Also, the Stefanski's playoff year, they started 5 different QBs.
 
Fight CU said:
every camp statline is asterisked bc he goes against 3rd team. on the flip side his OL and pass catchers are too but he still performs
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This is true but all he can do is do the best with what he gets. If he continues to perform at a high level they will have no choice but to give him opportunities with the 1st and 2nd units. Again he will have to use those to force them to continue to give him opportunities.
 
Honestly, the best thing that can happen to him is to play well in preseason, get cut and thus allowing him to pick a place where he can grow and learn the pro game. Cleveland is a trash organization, I don’t know why they picked him, no one seemingly wants to take responsibility for picking him, he appears to on an island all by himself. If Cleveland thinks Arch Manning is going to solve their problems, he might pull an Uncle Eli and refuse to go. Sweet justice. Feel bad for SS.
 
I think SS will be playing for Cleveland mid-season

Funny, if he got traded, he'd make another $15 million off the new best selling jerseys.
 
Not sure if this requires a 247 sub or not:

247sports.com

Things I Think I Know About The Cleveland Browns After Spending Wednesday At Training Camp

Observations and thoughts after attending the Cleveland Browns second day of padded training camp in the latest edition of "Things I Think I Know About The Browns."
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Cliffs:
  • Flacco clear leader for now due to experience, still has a live arm
  • Dillon overall has had a decent camp, height appears to be an issue in the pocket, doing some designed roll outs, has thrown high over the middle a few times in live action which is not good
  • Shedeur has had an excellent camp so far, reports have been a bit more favorable than Dillon but usually against the second or third defense. Played well in his limited op against ones.
  • Pickett on the trade/cut block
Sanders fans remain upset that he's not getting first-team reps, as it appears the team is not going to truly allow him to challenge for a starting role. This is misguided, as the reps attained in the immediate moment don't indicate that the opportunity will never come. Grousers bemoan that the team is instead treating him as a developmental quarterback. Tying that together with Andrew Berry's comments about having five developmental spaces on the team's 53-man roster, Sanders seems a lock to open the season as a QB on the bench when the regular season kicks off.

That changed a little yesterday, as Stefanski lined Sanders and the second-team offense up against the first-team defense. Sanders acquitted himself adequately, completing a couple of short passes against the more fierce pass rush. Still, Sanders has yet to work with the first-team offense.
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247sports.com

Cleveland Browns News and Rumors 7/31: Receiving Opportunities, First Shots, and Staying the Course

Cleveland Browns News and Rumors 7/31: Receiving Opportunities, First Shots, and Staying the Course
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Creebuzz said:
Not sure if this requires a 247 sub or not:

247sports.com

Things I Think I Know About The Cleveland Browns After Spending Wednesday At Training Camp

Observations and thoughts after attending the Cleveland Browns second day of padded training camp in the latest edition of "Things I Think I Know About The Browns."
247sports.com 247sports.com

Cliffs:
  • Flacco clear leader for now due to experience, still has a live arm
  • Dillon overall has had a decent camp, height appears to be an issue in the pocket, doing some designed roll outs, has thrown high over the middle a few times in live action which is not good
  • Shedeur has had an excellent camp so far, reports have been a bit more favorable than Dillon but usually against the second or third defense. Played well in his limited op against ones.
  • Pickett on the trade/cut block

247sports.com

Cleveland Browns News and Rumors 7/31: Receiving Opportunities, First Shots, and Staying the Course

Cleveland Browns News and Rumors 7/31: Receiving Opportunities, First Shots, and Staying the Course
247sports.com 247sports.com
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None of this really matters. No matter who they throw out there, the Browns won't win more than 5 games and the entire staff will flip in January. SS2 either needs to bide his time and keep learning to be ready when the new staff comes in or ask to be released so he can get on with a real franchise.
 
Da Lama said:
None of this really matters. No matter who they throw out there, the Browns won't win more than 5 games and the entire staff will flip in January. SS2 either needs to bide his time and keep learning to be ready when the new staff comes in or ask to be released so he can get on with a real franchise.
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There were rumors that if he didn’t get drafted, the Broncos would have been interested in signing him. Who knows where his fate lies but Cleveland should not be in the discussion.
 
Da Lama said:
None of this really matters. No matter who they throw out there, the Browns won't win more than 5 games and the entire staff will flip in January. SS2 either needs to bide his time and keep learning to be ready when the new staff comes in or ask to be released so he can get on with a real franchise.
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Again, I’ve spent way too much time over there, but the Cleveland 247 staff think Stefanski is safe to return next year unless they go nearly winless and he’s lost the locker room. I don’t care, except as it relates to SS2. And, yes, five wins may be their ceiling.

If SS2 takes over mid year, plays well, and Cleveland uses its two R1 picks to draft around him, they could be good quickly.

If they have the #1 overall (or package their two ones to move up) and select a QB, that’s the worst outcome for Shedeur.
 
Pilotbuff said:
There were rumors that if he didn’t get drafted, the Broncos would have been interested in signing him. Who knows where his fate lies but Cleveland should not be in the discussion.
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I just can't see that happening. Nix needs 2-3 years to really establish himself as a top 5 league starter and the Broncos don't need the distraction of locals clamoring for SS if Nix has a cold streak or is playing with an injury.

As much as I hate to say it, IMO the ideal place for SS to go is to KC and backup Mahomes. No controversy there because the starting QB is unquestioned, he can develop without local and national media scrutiny. If Mahomes gets hurt (which is getting more likely as he gets older & tries to scramble) Shedeur has a solid team to step into and show that he's an NFL starter talent.

I feel dirty.
 
Jello Bear said:
I just can't see that happening. Nix needs 2-3 years to really establish himself as a top 5 league starter and the Broncos don't need the distraction of locals clamoring for SS if Nix has a cold streak or is playing with an injury.

As much as I hate to say it, IMO the ideal place for SS to go is to KC and backup Mahomes. No controversy there because the starting QB is unquestioned, he can develop without local and national media scrutiny. If Mahomes gets hurt (which is getting more likely as he gets older & tries to scramble) Shedeur has a solid team to step into and show that he's an NFL starter talent.

I feel dirty.
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Yeah. That is almost a horrible situation for all involved.
 
Fight CU said:
sports.yahoo.com

Shedeur Sanders’ Pass at Browns Training Camp Leaves Fans in Disbelief

Shedeur Sanders' pass at Browns training camp draws attention on Wednesday.
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For anyone who follows the link and watches the clip, it's a basic Shedeur play we've seen 100 times. Nothing open, pocket shrinking, so he spins out to the right, collects to survey the field and for a WR to break, then calmly delivers a dart to the receiver just outside of and over the CB's catch radius.
 
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Buffnik said:
For anyone who follows the link and watches the clip, it's a basic Shedeur play we've seen 100 times. Nothing open, pocket shrinking, so he spins out to the right to, collects to survey the field and for a WR to break, then calmly delivers a dart to the receiver just outside of and over the CB's catch radius.
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ha - just edited my post to say the same thing
 
Buffnik said:
For anyone who follows the link and watches the clip, it's a basic Shedeur play we've seen 100 times. Nothing open, pocket shrinking, so he spins out to the right to, collects to survey the field and for a WR to break, then calmly delivers a dart to the receiver just outside of and over the CB's catch radius.
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That's funny because after seeing the headline I was anxious to watch the clip and then I was like, OK, nice play but nothing that special from what we've seen from Shedeur over the past 2 seasons.
 
Buffnik said:
For anyone who follows the link and watches the clip, it's a basic Shedeur play we've seen 100 times. Nothing open, pocket shrinking, so he spins out to the right to, collects to survey the field and for a WR to break, then calmly delivers a dart to the receiver just outside of and over the CB's catch radius.
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Wow, I really got used to that perfect ball placement.
 
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