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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)

I mean, a lot of them have to live in Cleveland. Cut them some slack. Every day they don't swallow their gun is a triumph of the human spirit.
When I was hospitalized at Cleveland Clinic for two weeks earlier this year, I wondered many times how it was possible they attracted the best medical professionals from (literally) all over the world to that city.

Granted, I was there in February which had to be the most miserable month.
 
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When I was hospitalized at Cleveland Clinic for two weeks earlier this year, I wondered many times how it was possible they attracted the best medical professionals from (literally) all over the world to that city.

Granted, I was there in February which had to be the lost miserable month.
Every month in Cleveland is a miserable month, just a different kind of miserable. Some months are hot and humid, others are cold and humid, some are ugly snow, others ugly rain, and always a wind off the lake to make things worse. Winter has ice and bad roads, summer has bugs. And then you have much of the city being old and run down, legacy of it's faded manufacturing past.

How they attract the medical talent? Who knows. How does Houston with the oppresive heat and humidty and terrible traffic attract doctors to MD Anderson, how does Minneapolis with cold and mosquitos that make Cleveland look minor league attract them to the Mayo?

Maybe doctors are weird.
 
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Every month in Cleveland is a miserable month, just a different kind of miserable. Some months are hot and humid, others are cold and humid, some are ugly snow, others ugly rain, and always a wind off the lake to make things worse. Winter has ice and bad roads, summer has bugs. And then you have much of the city being old and run down, legacy of it's faded manufacturing past.

How they attract the medical talent? Who knows. How does Houston with the oppresive heat and humidty and terrible traffic attract doctors to E.A. Anderson, how does Minneapolis with cold and mosquitos that make Cleveland look minor league attract them to the Mayo?

Maybe doctors are weird.
Even those German-sausage selling districts that aren't technically Cleveland can be tough.
 
Every month in Cleveland is a miserable month, just a different kind of miserable. Some months are hot and humid, others are cold and humid, some are ugly snow, others ugly rain, and always a wind off the lake to make things worse. Winter has ice and bad roads, summer has bugs. And then you have much of the city being old and run down, legacy of it's faded manufacturing past.

How they attract the medical talent? Who knows. How does Houston with the oppresive heat and humidty and terrible traffic attract doctors to E.A. Anderson, how does Minneapolis with cold and mosquitos that make Cleveland look minor league attract them to the Mayo?

Maybe doctors are weird.
@SpacemanSpiff Ban?
 
Pickett and Huntley are the odd men out imo. Flacco is a lock and then most teams only carry 2 or 3 max QB’s on the active roster. I really doubt the Browns put Gabriel on the PS. And at this point Shedeur seems unlikely as well
 
Let what slide? He responded to Buffnik's comment regarding blacks being fortunate their skin doesn't show age as much. I've socialized with blacks who brought up and joked about "black don't crack".
What did I miss, or is this another dumb attack on a poster?
“Blacks”

If You Say So Wow GIF by Identity
 
If Browns trying to tamp down Shedeur hype at all, pretty dumb to let him start vs worst D in NFL and then give Gabriel “equal” opportunity against Eagles D.
 
“Blacks”

If You Say So Wow GIF by Identity
One thing I have never fully understood, is when to capitalize "Black(s)". To do that when referring to an individual seems too much like a label or 'definer' to me. It seems most appropriately used when refering to an ethnic group, organization, etc,. Often not used in reference to individuals. "White" is almost never capitalized, 'Asian" I see both ways. I would write, "the black players...", not "the Black players..."
I truly mean no disrespect to any man. (fwiw: as a young man my dad tried to teach me, 'you are better than every individual you meet, and every individual you meet is better than you'. Which many find confusing, but I don't - the idea being that you must look below the surface before you evaluate anyone and that each of us has qualities and values that are not immediately apparent

Beyond that, the post referenced is in no way racist, and the talk of a ban makes it seem like it is. That's a cheap shot in my book
 
One thing I have never fully understood, is when to capitalize "Black(s)". To do that when referring to an individual seems too much like a label or 'definer' to me. It seems most appropriately used when refering to an ethnic group, organization, etc,. Often not used in reference to individuals. "White" is almost never capitalized, 'Asian" I see both ways. I would write, "the black players...", not "the Black players..."
I truly mean no disrespect to any man. (fwiw: as a young man my dad tried to teach me, 'you are better than every individual you meet, and every individual you meet is better than you'. Which many find confusing, but I don't - the idea being that you must look below the surface before you evaluate anyone and that each of us has qualities and values that are not immediately apparent

Beyond that, the post referenced is in no way racist, and the talk of a ban makes it seem like it is. That's a cheap shot in my book
Who talked about banning you?

The ban mentioned above was a joke for Mtn disrespecting my hitters at MD Anderson with his typo.
 
Albert Breer keeps making it a point to go on national shows and say that Shedeur is so far behind Gabriel and that if there was a regular season game where one of them had to start, Gabriel would be the choice every time.

I don’t know what Breer has against Shedeur but I just find that level of confidence and certainty to be idiotic when Shedeur has actually played and looked good in an NFL game
 
Albert Breer keeps making it a point to go on national shows and say that Shedeur is so far behind Gabriel and that if there was a regular season game where one of them had to start, Gabriel would be the choice every time.

I don’t know what Breer has against Shedeur but I just find that level of confidence and certainty to be idiotic when Shedeur has actually played and looked good in an NFL game
There are two different kinds of opinions, and we see both on the every level from our own families all the way to the national media.

One is created when a person looks at the available evidence and decides what that evidence leads them to. The other is when a person decides what they think then attempt to find evidence to support their view.

Breer (Kendrick Perkins, Skip Bayless, etc.) is an example of the second option. They only change when the evidence and public opinion gets so overwhelming that they are embarrassed into shifting their opinion, and then they will usually either try to pretend like they were missunderstood or look for a backhanded way to maintain their opinion while not publicly advocating that opinion. "Yes, he played well but it was against a bunch of grocery clerks and he had multiple all-pros on his side making him look good."
 
One thing I have never fully understood, is when to capitalize "Black(s)". To do that when referring to an individual seems too much like a label or 'definer' to me. It seems most appropriately used when refering to an ethnic group, organization, etc,. Often not used in reference to individuals. "White" is almost never capitalized, 'Asian" I see both ways. I would write, "the black players...", not "the Black players..."
I truly mean no disrespect to any man. (fwiw: as a young man my dad tried to teach me, 'you are better than every individual you meet, and every individual you meet is better than you'. Which many find confusing, but I don't - the idea being that you must look below the surface before you evaluate anyone and that each of us has qualities and values that are not immediately apparent

Beyond that, the post referenced is in no way racist, and the talk of a ban makes it seem like it is. That's a cheap shot in my book
Using “blacks” or “the blacks” as a noun for the group comes off as antiquated. That’s what my gif was referring to.
 
Albert Breer keeps making it a point to go on national shows and say that Shedeur is so far behind Gabriel and that if there was a regular season game where one of them had to start, Gabriel would be the choice every time.

I don’t know what Breer has against Shedeur but I just find that level of confidence and certainty to be idiotic when Shedeur has actually played and looked good in an NFL game
I actually don't think his option is ridiculous. I mean, Shedeur is still No.4 on the depth chart as of yesterday.

It's Browns, don't be surprised if they love DG that much
 
I actually don't think his option is ridiculous. I mean, Shedeur is still No.4 on the depth chart as of yesterday.

It's Browns, don't be surprised if they love DG that much
The level of certainty he says it with is what bothers me. Like, Shedeur is still so far behind Gabriel at this moment, even though he’s getting the start and has put up good game tape, while Gabriel hasn't played at all and has actually been pretty mediocre or bad in training camp to this point, according to most Browns beat guys? It plays like Breer has an agenda since he has been saying all this from the start.
 
The level of certainty he says it with is what bothers me. Like, Shedeur is still so far behind Gabriel at this moment, even though he’s getting the start and has put up good game tape, while Gabriel hasn't played at all and has actually been pretty mediocre or bad in training camp to this point, according to most Browns beat guys? It plays like Breer has an agenda since he has been saying all this from the start.

I don't put much stock in preseason depth charts in pro or college. Coaches hide things and I don't blame them for that. I think SS starts regardless of Gabriel's hamstring. I would not start a QB for a PS audition when I'm not 100% confident that will not may favor it a tad, as they go against the 1's. I'm optimistic that SS will again rise to the occasion. Build more confidence and ball out.
 
African Americans. Saying “blacks” or “the blacks” is antiquated and comes off with racist tones. When describing an individual you like in the previous post that said “black delivery driver” is fine. But referencing the entire group with blacks is antiquated.

I thought it was more the use of "Blacks" as a noun for a group of people instead of an adjective to describe people.

I am white. ✅

He is black. ✅

White people do this. ✅

Black people do that. ✅

Whites do this. ❌

Blacks do that. ❌

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I thought it was more the use of "Blacks" as a noun for a group of people instead of an adjective to describe people.

I am white. ✅

He is black. ✅

White people do this. ✅

Black people do that. ✅

Whites do this. ❌

Blacks do that. ❌

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Yes the examples you gave are what I was trying to convey. I just probably worded it poorly. Edited it to be similar to what you said.
 
I thought it was more the use of "Blacks" as a noun for a group of people instead of an adjective to describe people.

I am white. ✅

He is black. ✅

White people do this. ✅

Black people do that. ✅

Whites do this. ❌

Blacks do that. ❌

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This. Language and language usage changes over time to fit context and meaning.

Not that long ago in this country a person who had black skin was frequently referred to by a word starting with N that I won't repeat here. Calling that same person a ***** was considered by both sides as respectful.

Times changed and the accepted meaning that came with ***** also changed. The term African-American came into use because it left behind the negative connotations of earlier words and recognized a distinct population with a generally shared history, culture, and identity in a world that had many race based barriers for them to face.

More recently Black has come into usage. Again this is unlike the term ***** (which is derived from a Latin and Spanish word referring to the color black) it identifies a specific cultural group, not just a physical characteristic. African-American served and still can serve this purpose but it is unwieldy and because of the focus on African diminishes the reality that these people are fully American, as rooted in this country as any other American.
 
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