And projected by most analysts to be -at best- a 2nd rounder, most likely 3rd or 4th.
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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread
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And I’ve mentioned it before, if your going to “brash”, win the ****ing Heisman…and the two examples you just pointed out did.
Again a sharp, and largely useless binary.
I agree that if Shedeur was an undeniably great prospect, 6'3" 230, ran a 4.6 40, had an absolute cannon, and walked away with the Heisman, none of it would matter.
Baker had as big or bigger questions about his size and decision making than Shedeur.
One draft profile of Baker:
The Heisman doesn't erase that, if anything Baker was seen more as the stereotypical great for college, but that Heisman means jack for his pro prospects kind of QB.
It's just as silly to ignore race as a factor, as it is to ignore the injury history, tendency to take sacks, lack of elite arm strength, and size for Shedeur.
Nothing is the sole factor, but most of things being brought up are factors.
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As ****ty as this is, a boycott isn’t happening. Or if it does it will not even remotely affect the league.
Agree. The only thing that would hurt the NFL is if advertisers pull out, and that ain't happening because Shedeur Sanders goes undrafted
For sure, the NFL is a money machine. People will still tune in, this ain't Target. Kiper said it best "This is disgusting".
The Seahawks drafted Bosworth after he sent them a letter of disinterest.
Pretty sad….
Tyler Shough, 6-foot-4 ⅞, 220 lbs
2024 season stats · YDS. 3,195 · TD. 23 · INT. 6 · QBR. 75.0. 24th.
Completion percentage: 62.7 (5th)
Yards per game: 266.3 (4th)
Sack rate: 3% (1st)
Pressure to sack rate: 9.3% (1st)
Dillon Gabriel, 5-foot-11, 205 pounds
2024 season stats. YDS. 3,857. TD. 30. INT. 6. QBR. 86.4. 3rd.
Completion percentage: 72.9% (2nd)
Yards per game: 375.5 (1st)
Sack rate: 4.5% (2nd)
Pressure to sack rate: 13.9% (2nd)
Shedeur Sanders, 6-foot 1 ½ inches tall, 212 pounds
2024 season stats. YDS. 4,134. TD. 37. INT. 10. QBR. 75.5. 20th.
Completion percentage: 74.0% (1st)
Yards per game: 318.0 yards (3rd)
Sack rate: 8.1% (5th)
Pressure to sack rate: 20.1% (5th)
If people didn't tune out because of starting QBs raping women in bars or legitimate massage businesses and RBs beating up their GFs and/or kids, they aren't going to tune out because they didn't draft a guy.
What would be interesting is if Shedeur turns this whole thing on it's head and uses it to take advantage of the NFL.
Didn't draft me in the first round, no 5th year option. Didn't draft me in the first 3 rounds, you get me on a two or three year deal.
By the end of two years I'm now a quality starter in the league, pay me like it.
If Shedeur is as good as we think he is and proves out this simply means that he gets to his second contract much quicker than he would had he been drafted in the first round where he should have been. Franchise tag for a QB who is in his 3rd or 4th year gets really expensive when they could have had him with a couple more years on a rookie contract. He will easily make up the money he lost by not being drafted early.
The Raiders have never had a problem finding room for "personalities" on their team, in the Al Davis days they used them to their advantage.
Raiders have also built a pretty decent team to surround him with and coming in now, not as a high draft pick, would take the pressure off for him to play right away. Let Geno start, Shedeur adjust to the pro game, and make the transition at the right time.
The money they gave Geno won't matter because Shedeur will be cheap. The Raiders can move on from Geno after 2026 with $0 dead cap hit.
Now it makes sense. Footage of the Shedeur interviews has emerged:
You’re out of your depth in football related topics. Just stop.
Jesus fvcking christ. Does that same film show hundreds of missed blocking assignments and “look out” blocks that put him in those situations? Does that same film show him putting the team on his back and willing them to a win? Does that same film show him making throws that Slough, Milroe and Gabriel can’t even begin to at this point?
Fvck me. Some of you need to just stop and go touch some grass.
It seems you only venture over to the football forum when you want to troll. Weird behavior.
I think the thing that should jump out to scouts is how few turnovers Shedeur committed despite the pass rush he faced and every defensive scheme virtually ignoring run to defend pass. Every coach will tell you that winning turnover battle is pretty much the most important thing your QB can control. When you have a guy who does that while also making plays, being accurate and being tough/available, it all adds up to Shedeur's slide has nothing to do with football.
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One counterpoint is that Chip Kelly is the OC and scouted and schemed against Sanders and the Buffs - and destroyed CU. Granted, it was with a ****ty OL.. You have to think Kelly had input.
I lived in Seattle back then, the front office was kind of like "oh yeah, eff him, he'll play here or sit out a year".
And easier to do that with a LB than a QB.
True.
Kelly approved a scheme from his DC based on, "Our DLs will dominate their 1-on-1s against CU's OL to the point where we can give them rush paths to open up inside or edge blitzes without compromising their own pressure." It's not like they dominated CU by forcing Shedeur to patiently cycle through read progressions against a max coverage, soft zone - that would be a huge red flag.
I don't know much about this guy but Mat Smith is saying pretty much the same thing - "Shedeur didn't take the process or the preparation seriously. It's not about the tape"
Not participating in any football activities at the Shrine Bowl and Combine were obvious mistakes and then not preparing for his whiteboard interviews, if true, is yikes. Prime’s draft process was notoriously similar but he was a Travis Hunter level freak at a position that teams didn’t care about that kind of attitude.
Klatt agreed with Rich Eisen last night but said the QB position is just a completely different animal. Every other position can have these off field and personality red flags but not QB