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I fear what those Baylor Bastards would want to pull.
I figure they'd either get an SEC expansion invite or try to lead the AAC into P6 status.
Tech would never leave. They don't give a damn about a single school in the PAC, love playing the other Texas and Oklahoma schools, and make loads more money in the Big XII.
Lol. Was the comparison to the SEC, or to the PAC? Do Big XII schools earn millions more than PAC schools? Not only from media but also from tickets sold (who's gonna bring more fans to Lubbock: Oklahoma and Texas or Arizona and UCLA? And who are Tech fans gonna pay more to see?) Did anyone ask about Tech accepting invitations to the SEC, in which case I would have immediately said "he'll ya they'd take that"? What a nonsense deflection.
Because you keep saying things that aren’t true. The big 12 doesn’t make “loads more” than the pac 12. The pac 12 makes more than the ACC. You are also talking about a very small segment of revenue when you get into how many visiting fans come to watch games.
So you're upset that my definition of "loads" is simply several million dollars?
Yes. And I agree they aren’t leaving like you just said but you know who also isn’t leaving their conference? USC. They aren’t leaving the conference with their academic peers, historic rivals, close trips for games, most of their alumni/student body for a couple million more in the big 12 because “money talks.” An athletic director would probably get laughed out of the room by the president if he came into a meeting and said he thinks they should join the big 12 because they make a couple extra million a year in conference distribution. That is minuscule compared to what they are worried about.
Well all that may be true, but least Larry Scott has empathy. You can't put a dollar value on that.
The biggest issue is the pac 12 could have gone with a big 12 model where the tier three rights were negotiated individually and it wouldn’t make much difference on the bottom line for the bottom half of the conference but it would allow the bigger schools like usc, ucla, Washington and oregon to make more money and keep them happy. Basically there were a couple missteps by Larry Scott to begin. Before going all in on the packaged tier three rights he should have made sure they were able to lock in deals. For example a deal with directv would double the amount of money each schools gets from tier three rights. Instead he thought it would all go smoothly with the massive amount of programming and it causes expenses to be a lot higher than they should have been and the revenue was almost cut in half. If he would have figured out the actual desire or sign a shorter deal in order to see how it all worked out we would be in a totally different situation right now.
Good points, thanks. It does give me hope that the Pac 12 does have value and with the right person negotiating, I do think the Pac 12 could narrow the gap with the BIG and SEC, somewhat. However, I fear the damage is done as the ESPN owned SEC has gone on an absolute tear on the Pac 12 and its Schools. I think that is going to influence the media market massively in this next round.
