They don´t even have to be egoistical leaders, but I guess it´s basic human nature that you may want a new and bigger challenge from time to time.
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So who do you want as the new Head Coach?
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They don´t even have to be egoistical leaders, but I guess it´s basic human nature that you may want a new and bigger challenge from time to time.
Idot Buff
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Not sure that if you compare CU with Utah and BYU, it is a slam dunk that we are a significant upgrade, especially considering how we are hamstrung in so many ways...
buffwings
Club Member
If they succeed as CU, they would carry more fame, wealth, and glory than have at Utah. In the CFB world the Utah schools are still seen at lower tier football teams becasue of the conference their in. Not fair? Perhaps not, but no one expects much of them, and are still surprised when they do succeed. Utah in an undefeated season still has to fight tooth and nail to get any attention from the BCS schools, the NCAA and the football media as a legitimate contender. It can cause enough frustration for an HC to make them want to leave for a BCS school until things change.
I don´t disagree, but life can be funny sometimes.
FlatironsBuff
Well-Known Member
The reason CU rose to prominence in our minds is due to the fact that they hired outside of the CU family when they took a Michigan guy and brought him here. I don't see that we have to have a CU guy--but the guy from Florida that was former CU would still be a top choice for me. And (shudder) and NU guy in Turner Gill. Both great choices. Neither one will be approachable until after the season.
Here is a list:
Nuimotolo (sp?), form Navy
Troy Calhoun at AFA
Brian Kelly at Cincy, although I don't know why he'd jump ship for CU
Brent Venables, although I'm not wild about this choice
Art Briles, he was a candidate I thought the Buffs should have looked at last time around, and he's probably got a better thing going at Baylor, how sad is that? Plus he may not want to leave Texas
Gary Patterson, another chubby white guy at TCU
Bronco Mendenhall from Mormonland, he'd probably love a cold beer about now
Kyle Whittingham, although he also probably has a better gig right now
Spike Dykes, asst. at AZ, if you are going to run a spread and throw it a bunch, you might as well get somebody who knows how to do it
Major Applewhite, UT asst., can't beat 'em, hire away their staff
Bobby Kennedy, UT asst. (see above)
Lastly, and I hate to say it, Turner Gill
Nuimotolo (sp?), form Navy
Troy Calhoun at AFA
Brian Kelly at Cincy, although I don't know why he'd jump ship for CU
Brent Venables, although I'm not wild about this choice
Art Briles, he was a candidate I thought the Buffs should have looked at last time around, and he's probably got a better thing going at Baylor, how sad is that? Plus he may not want to leave Texas
Gary Patterson, another chubby white guy at TCU
Bronco Mendenhall from Mormonland, he'd probably love a cold beer about now
Kyle Whittingham, although he also probably has a better gig right now
Spike Dykes, asst. at AZ, if you are going to run a spread and throw it a bunch, you might as well get somebody who knows how to do it
Major Applewhite, UT asst., can't beat 'em, hire away their staff
Bobby Kennedy, UT asst. (see above)
Lastly, and I hate to say it, Turner Gill
Boulder High Panther. He was the QB when I was at school there. crappy quarterback, but I guess he's a pretty decent coach.
FecalBuff
Guest
I say Bill Callahan, he knew how to recruit and he brings pro experience. He coached the Raiders which play Denver so I think he is familiar with the area.
I would like to ask Coach Mac back the most if Snyder can leave retirement so can Mac. He absolutely ruled. Please come back. Just no Barnett and Skippy, though.
I would like to ask Coach Mac back the most if Snyder can leave retirement so can Mac. He absolutely ruled. Please come back. Just no Barnett and Skippy, though.
For CU? Unlikely.
Troll. I gave you the benefit of a doubt...get lost.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
I was going to bring up that name but you beat me to the punch.
I think we need to focus on what kind of offense we should have and then narrow the list down.
Dykes learned under Mike Leach at TT and is doing fine under Mike Stoops at Arizona.
Remember when we were struggling under Big Mac and he switched to the wishbone just like the top teams from the Big 8 were doing at the time? I think we need to get with the program in the Big 12 conference.
Junction
Club Member
navybuff
Member
Can't argue with the failure at Wyoming. But who hasn't failed there.
Can anyone recruit to Laramie?
He was a winner everywhere else.
get someone with experience at a big-time program. no more on the job training. get someone who is a recruiting fiend. get someone who has lots of contacts and is established in the major college coaching ranks. he'll bring in assistants who don't suck and who will also be recruiting fiends. get someone who can go into either california or texas and kick ass for recruits.
no lower division guys. no sentimental favorites. i want a proven freaking professional who can move the dial for us.
no lower division guys. no sentimental favorites. i want a proven freaking professional who can move the dial for us.
Sounds like you want Chuck Heater.
Spider
Member
I think Mark Richt would work well at Colorado.
fatbuff
Member
Joe Glenn 2002, or now? I am seriously glad that the fans dont vote on hiring coaches.
Junction
Club Member
I am liking this idea more by the day. Retain Cabral and Brown. Maybe Kiesau, if what we saw on Sunday is not what he would do free from Hawk's influence - he is the best recruiter on the current staff, by far. I'd love to see Bieniemy as an assistant for recruiting purposes, but it would probably mean making him the offensive coordiantor, and I'd want to be very careful about his ability to plan an offense. Bring in a couple tough as nails asskickers to toughen up the o and d lines. Then make personal visits to every 4* and better QB in the country, with the promise of early playing time in hand....
FecalBuff
Guest
Not a troll; what is one anyway? Do they still live under bridges? I haven't insulted anyone on these boards or used profanity. I like to participate as well as anyone, and I offer a lot to the table.
Back on the subject of coaches, I like Paul Johnson, maybe he can bring back some of that old skool I-bone or better yet try Gerry Dinardo who was assistant coach of the year when CU won it all. Would be cool.
Junction
Club Member
Could we have Steve Mariucci coaching Ed Orgeron's recruits??? :thumbsup:
Sure. So would Urban Meyer, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, Jim Tressell and Mack Brown. Your point??? :smile2:
Junction
Club Member
heater might be good, if we could get him out of florida. he might be thinking he's almost due for a 2mm+ sec job, however.
dewayne walker can recruit too, but i don't know much else about him. i could see him bringing in embree and bienemy.
i'd stay away from nfl guys, mostly. i think we need a badass recruiter and someone who knows how to run and administer a major program. nfl guys worry me. but, i admit i am scarred from fairbanks to this day. i thought butch davis would have been a great hire after gb got whacked. and, he was supposedly super-interested in the job, but CU didn't show him any love.
a lot of folks want the sentimental choice... like embree. i am not sure that is the right answer. altho when he interviewed for the job when hawk was hired, he supposedly presented a plan that included a really, really impressive group of assistants. so, maybe it would work.
the thing about hawkins is that he's not only over his head, but he's surrounded himself with a lot of guys who aren't big-time program guys, too. coach brown has obviously been around the majors and cabral, too. but, guys like collins and riddle and bandison? and, then you add in these o-coordinators who have never called plays and it isn't pretty to watch.
dewayne walker can recruit too, but i don't know much else about him. i could see him bringing in embree and bienemy.
i'd stay away from nfl guys, mostly. i think we need a badass recruiter and someone who knows how to run and administer a major program. nfl guys worry me. but, i admit i am scarred from fairbanks to this day. i thought butch davis would have been a great hire after gb got whacked. and, he was supposedly super-interested in the job, but CU didn't show him any love.
a lot of folks want the sentimental choice... like embree. i am not sure that is the right answer. altho when he interviewed for the job when hawk was hired, he supposedly presented a plan that included a really, really impressive group of assistants. so, maybe it would work.
the thing about hawkins is that he's not only over his head, but he's surrounded himself with a lot of guys who aren't big-time program guys, too. coach brown has obviously been around the majors and cabral, too. but, guys like collins and riddle and bandison? and, then you add in these o-coordinators who have never called plays and it isn't pretty to watch.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Our only shot at Richt is if he doesn't like money or resources and is deathly allergic to peaches.
Kiseau came here from Cal. Helfrich from ASU. I think Collins and the rest of them were Boise guys, though.
And I too, have come to the conclusion that Hawk is in way over his head. The folksy yarn has worn thin, and all that's left is a guy who can't even call a timeout when he needs to. This, more than anything, is what has me extremely depressed. Here we are in year four, and Hawk doesn't even know to call a timeout with 50 seconds left in the first half so he can get the ball back? That, right there, showed me just about everything I needed to know about his coaching ability. It really hurts saying that, because we've just thrown away four years.