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Spencer staying for junior year.
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Nor did myself or Nik ever say that we had "SCOOOOOOP" or anything like that. People would talk about Dinwiddie, I would say things like "it wouldn't surprise me if he went pro this year". Not sure why myself or Nik are being called out for bad info when the Mayor announces he's coming back one more year, but whatever. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know ****.
Actually this board does a pretty good job compared to others and there are folks here who have connections that do matter. You can take what they say or leave it. The overall value here, especially if you pony up the $15 for a membership, is pretty fantastic. Especially the knowledge of how to handle the disposal of alleged dead hookers! Nik and others bring it daily, deliver a fantastic recruiting forum, and insights/news into various areas of the School, community, and the AD.
You can call it BS, but that would be pretty short sighted. You may need glasses! :lol:
Edit: My use of scoooooop was amended above to include the overall value....Thanks Goose and Dio
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That's a cheap hooker.
That rug really tied the room together.
CUFan
Welcome back
There is a lot of good information/SCOOP on this site. There is also a lot of BS. You just have to look at the information critically to determine fact from fiction. I, for one, greatly appreciate the information posted on this site and could care less if it is confirmed. If I am intrigued, I will take the time to obtain confirmation on my own.
wrong reference, but a good one.
I think someone posted a couple links that showed Spencer in the 1st round for the 2014 draft with Dre in the first half of the 2nd round.
JimmyBuff
Well-Known Member
Oops I meant 2013 draft. Haven't clicked on any 2014 lists yet
Damn. I leave for a few hours after my sanctimonious post and the thread goes and gets good.
rolandftw
Club Member
Nbadraft.net has Dinwiddie going at #11 for 2014, and Andre at #37
Draftexpress.com has Dinwiddie going at #48 for 2014, and Andre at #40
Nbadraft.net is much more on potential, where as draftexpress is more on where they are now. Not to be negative, but the latter usually has been more accurate.
Draftexpress.com has Dinwiddie going at #48 for 2014, and Andre at #40
Nbadraft.net is much more on potential, where as draftexpress is more on where they are now. Not to be negative, but the latter usually has been more accurate.
jgisland
Club Member
A lot of people don't have him on mock drafts b/c scouts didn't think he was going to declare.
But here was a write-up on him before the tourney as one of the top 10 Prospects With The Most To Gain From NCAA Tournament
Spencer Dinwiddie - Apparently Dinwiddie could "test the waters" this year, although testing the waters isn't really a thing anymore. Still, he's been flying under the radar this season as most scouts would expect him to be back in school, but if he does declare he is a guy to consider in the late first round.
jgisland
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Professor3
Member
There was a very real possibility that Dinwiddie would leave this year. That's a fact. It would have been a very different team next season if he had decided to leave. That's also a fact. It's a good thing for the Buffs that it appears that he is going to stay.
Is this a fact?
fairdinkum
New Member
I have it on pretty good word he could go 19/20 if declares this year....take it for what its worth. Some kids want to be a higher pick and come back....some kids want money asap....I'd love to have him another year!!!
Buffs1987
New Member
I just don't see why people legitimately thought he would leave this year. Had his season gone like Trey Burke's I can understand, but he has millions of reasons to stay one more year. All he has to do is maintain the growth he has already shown. He gets to play on a team that should contend for a conference title and make a NCAA run. He can actually continue to get better in college, unlike some other players on this team...
shang
Member
your joking right?!?! whose your source... one of the sports writers at one of the local high school newspapers?? Don't get me wrong... I love spencer and what he brings to this team, but the last third of the season, we saw some aspects of his game that another year would help... heck at one point... when he had his perfect game, I was thinking first round... but he'll get there, just not this year
It's just so tricky for the players. Whenever this comes up, I always think of Richard Roby. He was a borderline first round pick after his freshman year. He got better as a player, but not dramatically, and so each year scouts viewed him as another year older and therefore having "less potential". This led to him being undrafted. I don't want to see any Buff ever have to go through that again. I think the Mayor is making the right decision, but any time someone is being told they'd go in the first round they have to go.
This is a problem we're going to be experiencing more and more over the next few years. This is a GOOD problem.
cubuffs85
Active Member
I largely share Goose's thoughts here. I remember going to the NIT game in 2006 with the "one more year" signs trying to get Roby to stay. Well it worked... just kidding (no I don't really think fans have that much pull in these kinds of things). Sometimes you have to strike while the iron is hot as they say. In hindsight, sure Roby should've gone after after his sophomore year. Never would I have thought Copeland would've made the NBA before Roby (don't really follow the international scene, but my guess is the chances of seeing Roby in the NBA are pretty slim at this point).
I think if you are a sure lottery pick, you almost always have to go. The only possible exception to that is a Florida-like situation, where they know they are coming back to a championship-caliber team. If you are a definite first-rounder but not necessarily a lottery pick, you should probably go as well. Borderline first-rounders, that's more dicey, if 'Dre were a borderline first-rounder, I'd say he should go, because I'm not sure his offensive game will ever grow and there's not that much more upside otherwise. I agree in Spencer's case, that I believe he's making the right decision. Could he regress, sure, but I don't think he's going to undraftable.
One thing Spencer has going for him, that Roby doesn't is the team is supposed to be much more competitive. If Spencer was playing on the 2006-07 Buffs in what turned out to be a Ricardo Patton lame duck season, I would've probably told him to go pro.
cubuffs85
Active Member
Not sure why it's showing up as all lower case letters there.
Buffs1987
New Member
The Roby and Dinwiddie situations are different. Roby has shown he was never going to be a successful NBA player. Maybe he peaked at age 20 and scouts/GMs noticed. Players can go undrafted and be more successful professionally than a top-5 pick. SD is good but has to get better if he wants a pro career.
He could solidify himself as a lottery pick or fall to the early second, but don't see him dropping like Roby did. Do you think SD will be drafted if he averages 17 pts and 5 rebs next year?
He could solidify himself as a lottery pick or fall to the early second, but don't see him dropping like Roby did. Do you think SD will be drafted if he averages 17 pts and 5 rebs next year?
cubuffs85
Active Member
While I'm in agreement with you, I think Roby's downfall is largely hindsight. I don't think too many could've predicted him going from a possible lottery pick to undrafted. He was one of the best players in the Big 12 at one point, won player-of-the-week multiple times.
If Roby plays under Boyle, or even Bzz, he would have been gone after his soph season. I have no doubt about that, and will always blame Patton for it.
Happy to hear Dinwiddie is staying. If he has the type of year we all think he can next season, he'll be a lottery pick.
Buffs1987
New Member
I am not saying I agree he should have stayed, but if he was good enough and had the desire to be in NBA it would have happened. For all we know it still will.
I think David Harrison would have been better off with one more year, but don't think he would be in the NBA today either way. In the long run the true talent/ hard work shows.
fairdinkum
New Member
I'll respond cuz you seem a little agitated. No joke!! The source IS an NBA front office. I also have 5 friends that are college coaches. I'm not always right but these guys are in the profession and know what they are talking about.
If that is not good enough for you, go watch the CU at Arizona game again. Miles Simon (who announced the game) says before the game, Sean Miller said scouting CU that Dinwiddie is the most pro ready player in the Pac 12. Now you have to read into that a little as we all know Shabazz is a lottery pick, but that doesn't make him more pro ready at this point in time (or that point in the season).
Finally the NBA loves LLLLLOOOONNNNNGGGG players. Dinwiddie has the perfect NBA PG body for his age.
Assuming Dinwiddie is here next year, we win as CU fans!!! Don't get soo upset over something that could go either way. The kid wins getting drafted this year or next barring no injury.