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What? This is a joke, right?
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Stoops at ND?
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What? This is a joke, right?
No question, but they are losing a lot as well. He also has some incredible talent at OU and only has to go to Texas to reload it. He should be looking at at least 9 wins next year and if things go well a run at the title game in the next 2-3 years at OU.
The ND fans are pretty fickle, 8-9 wins may not be enough after a couple of years.
I also question if the talent they have is all that good. I know that they are full of 4* and 5* players but how many of these are rated where they are at because they went to ND. How many are early maturers who never get that much better. I watched them against USC and Michigan and outside of a couple of recievers and Claussen I didn't see a lot of guys who struck me a phenominally talented players. Part is coaching by CW but part is also that they just might not be that good.
I know that even in a year when they started with very little experience and lost a lot to injury OU doesn't lack guys who can run.
Junction
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if you look at those 4 and 5 stars....they all have offers from the other big programs.
ND has a ton of talent on offense and none of their skill-position players are seniors, although Clausen is expected to leave. Defense, I'm not so sure. But as was pointed out, the new coach is set up for some immediate success because the schedule is soft again next year. Only 3 true road games, plus games against Army, Navy, Western Michigan, and Tulsa. How can they NOT win at least 9 next year? :sad1:
Apparently nothing is gonna happen with Weis until at least tomorrow. Not sure why they're holding off on the announcement.....
http://southbendtribune.com/article/20091129/SPORTS13/911299949/1129/News
Stoops says he's not interviewing for ND job (at least not yet):
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/blogs/blog.aspx?blogid=13#6877
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/blogs/blog.aspx?blogid=13#6877
somebody
Well-Known Member
Holtz is absolutely the most pathetic homer studio guy of all time.
No argument on the comparison with whatshisface from NU, though - as bad as Holtz is, that guy was a tool.
White_Rabbit
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Holtz is probably as delusional as Hawk. Maybe more.
yeah but it is like having your grandfather around when things start to get a lil cob webby upstairs.....you don't argue and you don't correct them. You just smile and nod your head in agreement.
I have no proof, but I'd bet $100 that this rumor of Stoops going to ND was started by a ND fan in the hopes it would get legs. It's pure fantasy. ND would be a step down for Stoops. It's the place where coaches go to have their careers killed. It's a no-win situation. Stoops is smart enough to realize that.
Although I have to admit that it would be kind of nice to get him out of the conference.
Although I have to admit that it would be kind of nice to get him out of the conference.
I absolutely agree with you. But I ****ing hate Stoops and wish he would take his **** somewhere else.
OKCBuff
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I don't see why it would be. This is a solid place. It's not the front range, but its really overhauled itself the past 15 years.
The wild card with ND is that if you only need 9 wins to get an at-large bid and ND will ALWAYS be taken if they get 9 wins. That's damn near impossible for a school from any conference.
I doubt he would leave either, but after 11 years I could see it just from the "time for a change" angle.
Mick Ronson
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i could see Stoops take a shot at the NFL before a lateral move to ND.
B1Buff
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The problem with ND is that there is no real measuring stick for success with no conference affiliation...There are no conference titles to win, just single 'big' games and then some bowl game. Until they get in the Big 10 (which will be coming soon IMO), it is going to be tough for any coach to be successful there.
I would love to see Stoops leave OU, but I think he'd be a fool to leave for ND. I just don't see it happening.
If ND offers that, OU turns around and matches it. This whole rumor is beyond ridiculous. It wasn't that long ago that OU was where we are now. With the resources they have at their disposal, you think they're going to let Stoops go and risk going right back to where they were in 1998?
Your both wrong. He makes $6.5mil right now. Or is it $4.3mil? Or is it $3.8mil?
I can see ND putting $7mil on the table and the debate would be over.
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White_Rabbit
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I think it's more likely Meyer would leave Florida to go to ND. I think their options are far more realistic than their fanbase would like to believe. Tony Dungy? You have to be kidding me. Someone on ESPN earlier mentioned Brian Billick, not sure pro coach would be the way to go for them, but teams aren't kicking down his door for his services. I think it'll come down to Brian Kelly or maybe even Gary Patterson. Forde on ESPN said they want a defensive minded coach, so that would be Patterson.
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My guess is they end up with Kelly. I did hear some fool on ESPN saying ND should go after Pete Carrol :wow: Of course, that fool was Lou Holtz :lol:
I heard that too about died laughing when I heard him bring up Carroll.
It's finally official, Weis is out at ND.
Now that's a new name on the ND front. He was rumored for the Tennessee job last year but that never materialized.