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The anger is building

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For most of the season I sensed extreme apathy coming from the fanbase...... but within the past 2 weeks I'm starting to sense the anger coming back. I wonder if there will be enough of that emotion to sway any decisions that are (or most likely aren't) made in the next month.
 
Maybe. I'm still apathetic, though. Probably moreso than ever before.
 
I've never lost the anger, but kinda frustrated that no one wants to come up to Folsom and hold signs with me. I even have a big bullhorn...
 
I am thinking of skipping the last two games. CU football is not entertaining.
 
I believe that this is so bad, even CU has to get rid of this staff. All of the print media out this week, however, has made it a point to state that at the most assistants will be changed. This concerns me. With big losses and low fan numbers the last two games though, I don't think there is a choice.
 
I'm learning to look at the powers that be at CU as politicians.

Politicians will try every tactic they can to convince their constituents that the problem isn't really a problem and that things are going according to plan. (That was Benson's move early in the season.)

When that doesn't work, they propose ceremonial changes that won't fix the problem but are easy to make happen. They hope these will appease the constituents and they won't be forced into an actual decision for which they can be held accountable and is sure to upset some of the constituency. (This is where we are now with the leaks that "major" changes are in the works.)

The only way this escalates into the actual decision is if not making it will be so resoundingly unpopular that it threatens their very position. So, what will talk is if they realize that keeping Embree will be an economic disaster for the university and garner an incredible amount of bad press as well as ill will from the CU boosters/donors/alums/fans. That is the tipping point we need this to reach. It must become too costly in every way. Standing pat has to become the decision that would require courageous leadership. We have to make firing Embree and then making a real commitment to excellence the cowardly decision. When it gets there, CU will make the decision they should. Only then.
 
My sources within the AD have told me that Embree is likely to get a three year extension.
 
Buffnik said:
I'm learning to look at the powers that be at CU as politicians.

Politicians will try every tactic they can to convince their constituents that the problem isn't really a problem and that things are going according to plan. (That was Benson's move early in the season.)

When that doesn't work, they propose ceremonial changes that won't fix the problem but are easy to make happen. They hope these will appease the constituents and they won't be forced into an actual decision for which they can be held accountable and is sure to upset some of the constituency. (This is where we are now with the leaks that "major" changes are in the works.)

The only way this escalates into the actual decision is if not making it will be so resoundingly unpopular that it threatens their very position. So, what will talk is if they realize that keeping Embree will be an economic disaster for the university and garner an incredible amount of bad press as well as ill will from the CU boosters/donors/alums/fans. That is the tipping point we need this to reach. It must become too costly in every way. Standing pat has to become the decision that would require courageous leadership. We have to make firing Embree and then making a real commitment to excellence the cowardly decision. When it gets there, CU will make the decision they should. Only then.
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In other words, CU will never be worth a **** athletically because the powers that be will only react to a crisis, and never attempt to build anything worth a crap. Great. I am going to bed now.
 
Thorburn is implying in his latest article that Bohn will be let go at the end of the year next year if Embo doesn't win. I guess I can live with that because Embo won't win more than 3 games next year.
 
Buffnik said:
I'm learning to look at the powers that be at CU as politicians.

Politicians will try every tactic they can to convince their constituents that the problem isn't really a problem and that things are going according to plan. (That was Benson's move early in the season.)

When that doesn't work, they propose ceremonial changes that won't fix the problem but are easy to make happen. They hope these will appease the constituents and they won't be forced into an actual decision for which they can be held accountable and is sure to upset some of the constituency. (This is where we are now with the leaks that "major" changes are in the works.)

The only way this escalates into the actual decision is if not making it will be so resoundingly unpopular that it threatens their very position. So, what will talk is if they realize that keeping Embree will be an economic disaster for the university and garner an incredible amount of bad press as well as ill will from the CU boosters/donors/alums/fans. That is the tipping point we need this to reach. It must become too costly in every way. Standing pat has to become the decision that would require courageous leadership. We have to make firing Embree and then making a real commitment to excellence the cowardly decision. When it gets there, CU will make the decision they should. Only then.
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So, when do we get the CU Blue Ribbon Pannel for Football Adequacy?

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DenverBuff77 said:
Thorburn is implying in his latest article that Bohn will be let go at the end of the year next year if Embo doesn't win. I guess I can live with that because Embo won't win more than 3 games next year.
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Why is this so hard? I would applaud Bohn to own up to the Embree mistake, and go out and get a new coach that the program and fanbase can get behind. Money is not an issue, so fix the problem.
 
DenverBuff77 said:
Thorburn is implying in his latest article that Bohn will be let go at the end of the year next year if Embo doesn't win. I guess I can live with that because Embo won't win more than 3 games next year.
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You do understand who selects the athletic director, right?

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
 
DenverBuff77 said:
Thorburn is implying in his latest article that Bohn will be let go at the end of the year next year if Embo doesn't win. I guess I can live with that because Embo won't win more than 3 games next year.
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I've been told Mike is not the type of guy to pull this stunt but if that's true I'd just fire Embree now spend a few weeks centralizing department decisions on my desk and say Him or Me when they try to re-hire Jon.
 
So many people are operating under the delusion that Benson and DiStephano care. They don't. Nik is correct. If they finally get enough pressure so as to threaten their positions of power, then they will make a change. Always the bare minimum at CU. Never any forward thinking.
 
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I've moved on for this year. Grew up in the Fairbanks era, so I believe things will change, but no need to watch horrible football. May make the Utah game just for the traditional Friday tailgate with friends, but expectations are done for the year. Recruiting will be interesting this winter, though no expectations either.
 
Apathy?? I have just flat out given up...I have turned off more games at halftime and switched over to watching games in other conferences then ever in my whole life. Thank god for satellite and all the options out there. Back in the day you only had ND to watch. I have no fuel in the tank and am soooo ready for this season to end. I really hope I do not start drinking the Kool Aid again unless a new staff is brought in, a whole new staff...
 
Buffnik said:
I'm learning to look at the powers that be at CU as politicians.

Politicians will try every tactic they can to convince their constituents that the problem isn't really a problem and that things are going according to plan. (That was Benson's move early in the season.)

When that doesn't work, they propose ceremonial changes that won't fix the problem but are easy to make happen. They hope these will appease the constituents and they won't be forced into an actual decision for which they can be held accountable and is sure to upset some of the constituency. (This is where we are now with the leaks that "major" changes are in the works.)

The only way this escalates into the actual decision is if not making it will be so resoundingly unpopular that it threatens their very position. So, what will talk is if they realize that keeping Embree will be an economic disaster for the university and garner an incredible amount of bad press as well as ill will from the CU boosters/donors/alums/fans. That is the tipping point we need this to reach. It must become too costly in every way. Standing pat has to become the decision that would require courageous leadership. We have to make firing Embree and then making a real commitment to excellence the cowardly decision. When it gets there, CU will make the decision they should. Only then.
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Well, Benson was the Republican nominee for governor in 1994 and chaired the Colorado Republican Party from 1987-1993 and 2002-2003.
 
Buffnik said:
I'm learning to look at the powers that be at CU as politicians.

Politicians will try every tactic they can to convince their constituents that the problem isn't really a problem and that things are going according to plan. (That was Benson's move early in the season.)

When that doesn't work, they propose ceremonial changes that won't fix the problem but are easy to make happen. They hope these will appease the constituents and they won't be forced into an actual decision for which they can be held accountable and is sure to upset some of the constituency. (This is where we are now with the leaks that "major" changes are in the works.)

The only way this escalates into the actual decision is if not making it will be so resoundingly unpopular that it threatens their very position. So, what will talk is if they realize that keeping Embree will be an economic disaster for the university and garner an incredible amount of bad press as well as ill will from the CU boosters/donors/alums/fans. That is the tipping point we need this to reach. It must become too costly in every way. Standing pat has to become the decision that would require courageous leadership. We have to make firing Embree and then making a real commitment to excellence the cowardly decision. When it gets there, CU will make the decision they should. Only then.
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It is absolutely political at this point. Benson weighs every decision with the "political blowback." The Regents are the ones holding the cards, but we never hear how much they care or how much pressure is on them to make directives to Benson to approve things. Everyone else in the hierarchy is beholden to those decisions.

Regents --> Benson --> DiStephano --> Bohn --> Embree

The people who think that removing DiStephano is going to solve the problem needs to look at the above upline. Bohn has his hands tied, except for hiring processes. For firing processes, it is offically a Chancellor decision, but DiStephano is not going to do anything without clearing it with (taking orders from) Benson first. If Benson perceives the POTENTIAL political blowback of say firing Embree as being greater than the pressure he is receiving from the Regents (which as far as I can tell, is little to none), his decision is easy. The fastest solution is for a donor to come in and say "Here's $X, fire the staff and hire a big coach," Benson would acquiesce, because he wouldn't have to explain away the buyout, as little as it is. Unfortunately, the only donor who seems financially capable of making this happen is holding his $$$ hostage in exchange for nearly full control of the football program. Furthermore, this donor (who is now a billionaire) so off on his football expertise that he would insist (even require) that Mac be our coach next season. This is a game of chicken, and the football team's W-L record has nothing to do with the stakes.
 
none of these guys care about anything until the hire is right, and we start winning again...At that point they will all be fighting towards the front to assume the credit... all together - egomaniacs !! Narcissist ??
 
CU will not make a bold move. They will make changes at DC and some assistant coaches. The max they will do is change both coordinators and some assistants. That's it. No more.
 
Further, it seems atypical that the highest academic achievement of a University President is a bachelor's degree in Geology.
 
Hank said:
Further, it seems atypical that the highest academic achievement of a University President is a bachelor's degree in Geology.
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It is not common and it was a major point of contention when he was named president. The faculty saw it as a slap in the face.
 
I'm not going to waste my time & energy being angry. I haven't watched or listened to a game since whatever the blowout loss was after beating Wazzou. I'm resigned to the fact that my alma mater is an absolute laughingstock of a program that is doing EVERYTHING wrong and the powers that be are fine with it.

My message to the administration, the coaching staff, and the team: **** you.
 
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