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The best part?

I've been waiting for the inevitable corn excuse as to why they lost, because they never get beaten, they just get cheated, hosed by the refs, legs twisted in piles, whatever it takes to rationalize a loss. Thought Frosty would have it ready for the post-game presser, so it must have taken some work to dig this one up. Will he call for an investigation by the conferences, or maybe the FBI?
 
Big Jim said:
Hold the presses. Nubbies are claiming that the play clock expired before CU kicked the FG in OT. They claim ball should have have been moved back five yards and re-kicked. They are whinging about the officials screwing them, the Big 10 officials that called the game.
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Just saw a few game highlights on CBS Sports, including the winning kick. The snap was with 5 seconds left play clock, and it left Stefanau's foot with 3 seconds left. Maybe the nubs can slow down the video of the kick and speed up the video of the clock to prove their point.
 
WarBuff said:
They may have put themselves into a position they can't buy out, so yes.
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No. He'll be there in 2023. They know they need to flip their roster-look at what their players are saying since the game ended.......Barry in particular.
 
Big Jim said:
Hold the presses. Nubbies are claiming that the play clock expired before CU kicked the FG in OT. They claim ball should have have been moved back five yards and re-kicked. They are whinging about the officials screwing them, the Big 10 officials that called the game.
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Don't leave us hanging, @Big Jim! Post the proof!
 
Buffnik said:
Agree. This should be the September game with Utah as our Thanksgiving conference finale rivalry game.
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Why Utah for you? Who outside of CU and Utah will care. We start winning in the pac a natural rival will happen, the other guys need to be as big of ass holes as nibblets are. I don't think the people of Utah can rise to that level, Certainly the LA schools, ducks, and huskies have enough followers to raise their bar to the corns. Out of those schools only SC and the ducks even register any feelings. Playing everyone else is kind of like Iowa St or K st you want to beat them and after you do ok what's next, beating the nubs well that's when your deep feelings come out and it's glorious, do you really see that with Utah?
 
68buffs said:
Why Utah for you? Who outside of CU and Utah will care. We start winning in the pac a natural rival will happen, the other guys need to be as big of ass holes as nibblets are. I don't think the people of Utah can rise to that level, Certainly the LA schools, ducks, and huskies have enough followers to raise their bar to the corns. Out of those schools only SC and the ducks even register any feelings. Playing everyone else is kind of like Iowa St or K st you want to beat them and after you do ok what's next, beating the nubs well that's when your deep feelings come out and it's glorious, do you really see that with Utah?
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Anybody who understands Buff football history KNOWS that their historic rival was UTAH!! Only loss in 1961 Orange Bowl season ? UTAH! (My first CU game with actual, you know, reserved tickets in the temporary stands in the north endzone. Dad sprung real cash for those babies---$5 a seat!)

Lot to hate about UTAH, starting with their team colors.
 
68buffs said:
Why Utah for you? Who outside of CU and Utah will care. We start winning in the pac a natural rival will happen, the other guys need to be as big of ass holes as nibblets are. I don't think the people of Utah can rise to that level, Certainly the LA schools, ducks, and huskies have enough followers to raise their bar to the corns. Out of those schools only SC and the ducks even register any feelings. Playing everyone else is kind of like Iowa St or K st you want to beat them and after you do ok what's next, beating the nubs well that's when your deep feelings come out and it's glorious, do you really see that with Utah?
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Utah makes the most sense on proximity alone, and that usually plays a big hand in how intense a rivalry is. Few rivalries span a thousand miles.
 
68buffs said:
Why Utah for you? Who outside of CU and Utah will care. We start winning in the pac a natural rival will happen, the other guys need to be as big of ass holes as nibblets are. I don't think the people of Utah can rise to that level, Certainly the LA schools, ducks, and huskies have enough followers to raise their bar to the corns. Out of those schools only SC and the ducks even register any feelings. Playing everyone else is kind of like Iowa St or K st you want to beat them and after you do ok what's next, beating the nubs well that's when your deep feelings come out and it's glorious, do you really see that with Utah?
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1. There a history there that we don't have with other Pac-12 members, even if it is ridiculously dated. 65 meetings going back to 1903 with CU having a 32-30-3 series edge. Rumble in the Rockies

2. Everyone else in the Pac-12 has an in-state or even cross-city rival. Who is going to tell USC that CU is now their main rivalry game and UCLA, Notre Dame, Stanford and Cal can all take a back seat?

3. At least we get a program as a rival in a new conference. Could have been in a situation like Penn State where they're trying to get them to care about Rutgers and Maryland. Utah is a damn good program and has been for a long time.
 
Buffnik said:
1. There a history there that we don't have with other Pac-12 members, even if it is ridiculously dated. 65 meetings going back to 1903 with CU having a 32-30-3 series edge. Rumble in the Rockies

2. Everyone else in the Pac-12 has an in-state or even cross-city rival. Who is going to tell USC that CU is now their main rivalry game and UCLA, Notre Dame, Stanford and Cal can all take a back seat?

3. At least we get a program as a rival in a new conference. Could have been in a situation like Penn State where they're trying to get them to care about Rutgers and Maryland. Utah is a damn good program and has been for a long time.
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Also, don't forget the Red Bike incident from 2011

"The 7-5 Buffaloes head to Utah, which is 7-4, with the apparent stakes being a berth in the Sun Bowl. The game is billed as a rivalry game between the Pac-12's two new members.
"Do you guys see this!" an enraged Embree says to his team during a meeting Monday before the game. He holds a bike above his head that it appears someone has vandalized with cheap, red spray paint.
"This is my 15-year-old daughter's bike. Look what they did to it! It used to be black and gold, our beloved colors. And now it is Utah red! Those, those, Utes... they made her cry!"
The meeting room erupts. "They made coach's daughter cry!" rages 6-foot-8 guard Ryan Miller. "We must crush them, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentation of their women!"
It will become known as the "Red Bike Incident." Utes fans will alternately revel in it or deny involvement. Years hence, college football historians will lean back and sagely say, "Yep, that was when those Buffs and Utes really started to hate each other. Might be the most vicious rivalry in all of college football."
Colorado prevails 28-27 in a game that features 195 yards in penalties. The Buffs then stomp Clemson in the Sun Bowl and finish 9-5.
Embree's recruiting class ranks 15th in the nation. The Big 12 falls apart. Nebraska finishes last in the Legends Division of the Big Ten.
The snow comes early and often and is most righteous."
 
Buffnik said:
1. There a history there that we don't have with other Pac-12 members, even if it is ridiculously dated. 65 meetings going back to 1903 with CU having a 32-30-3 series edge. Rumble in the Rockies

2. Everyone else in the Pac-12 has an in-state or even cross-city rival. Who is going to tell USC that CU is now their main rivalry game and UCLA, Notre Dame, Stanford and Cal can all take a back seat?

3. At least we get a program as a rival in a new conference. Could have been in a situation like Penn State where they're trying to get them to care about Rutgers and Maryland. Utah is a damn good program and has been for a long time.
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I agree but it can't be forced. CU and the Utes have to play some meaningful games against each other where winner goes to the conference championship.
I think that has only happened once so far.
 
I have no problem with having the Utah game on (or near) T-giving weekend and as a "rival." It nonetheless will always fall short of the hatred I have for the fuskers and their fans ... given the whole history with Tom "I''ll play anyone who will help me win" Osborne. and who is now appropriately followed by Scott "hiding in the closet" Frost who is also willing to play anyone who will help him win, even a guy who posted a kiddie porn video clip.

I don't think a true rivalry really needs outright hatred ... although it certainly helps. But I find it difficult to hate Utahans ... when I took a motorcycle trip there back in 2005 or so, I met nothing but very warm, polite, and helpful people. Even the Mormons! ;)

When you think of the great rivalries in CFB, there are several that don't require outright hatred but a kind of grudging respect for each other ... Army-Navy, Harvard-Yale, and yes, even Michigan-Ohio State. That last one involves two fan bases who reall really want to beat the **** out of each other on the football field ... but who also probably know several friend or family members on the other side (my favorite cousins are Buckeye fans). And we enjoy needling each other over that game every year ... but I of course have had to take the most needling over the past decade or so. :cry:

And then there's Auburn-'Bama, where the hatred apparently is virtually unbounded ... but then everyone else in the CFB fan nation realizes those people are ****ing nuts. :giggle:
 
Buffnik said:
1. There a history there that we don't have with other Pac-12 members, even if it is ridiculously dated. 65 meetings going back to 1903 with CU having a 32-30-3 series edge. Rumble in the Rockies

2. Everyone else in the Pac-12 has an in-state or even cross-city rival. Who is going to tell USC that CU is now their main rivalry game and UCLA, Notre Dame, Stanford and Cal can all take a back seat?

3. At least we get a program as a rival in a new conference. Could have been in a situation like Penn State where they're trying to get them to care about Rutgers and Maryland. Utah is a damn good program and has been for a long time.
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Who was going to tell Nebraska that CU was their rival instead of Oklahoma?? Utah is not and will not be a rival unless they are consistently a top 10 team.
 
LifeofaBuff said:
Who was going to tell ****braska that CU was their rival instead of Oklahoma?? Utah is not and will not be a rival unless they are consistently a top 10 team.
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Give me a break.

Utah has every reason to look down on CU, not the other way around based on everything since we both joined the Pac-12 and what they had been accomplishing before joining the conference. But they have to become a consistent top 10 team before being worthy? That's laughable. In fact, please try to name five P5 programs that have been worse than CU over the past 15 years. It's not gonna be easy to come up with that list.

What McCartney did was a unicorn. It wasn't a blueprint. If it was a blueprint, we'd have been hearing about other rivalries like Wake Forest vs Florida State and Indiana vs Ohio State these past 2-3 decades.
 
Buffnik said:
Utah has every reason to look down on CU, not the other way around based on everything since we both joined the Pac-12 and what they had been accomplishing before joining the conference.
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Yeah...no. CU has won just as many Pac-12 Championships, just as many Pac-12 South Championships as Utah. CU even won the South two years before Utah. Utah has been a great model for consistency, consistency at the just above the mediocre line. Utah is not some great warrior team that everyone is lining up to slay.
 
Big Jim said:
Yeah...no. CU has won just as many Pac-12 Championships, just as many Pac-12 South Championships as Utah. CU even won the South two years before Utah. Utah has been a great model for consistency, consistency at the just above the mediocre line. Utah is not some great warrior team that everyone is lining up to slay.
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I think it's hilarious that folks look down on Utah.
 
Buffnik said:
1. There a history there that we don't have with other Pac-12 members, even if it is ridiculously dated. 65 meetings going back to 1903 with CU having a 32-30-3 series edge. Rumble in the Rockies

2. Everyone else in the Pac-12 has an in-state or even cross-city rival. Who is going to tell USC that CU is now their main rivalry game and UCLA, Notre Dame, Stanford and Cal can all take a back seat?

3. At least we get a program as a rival in a new conference. Could have been in a situation like Penn State where they're trying to get them to care about Rutgers and Maryland. Utah is a damn good program and has been for a long time.
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I'm not saying that they aren't good. I just don't have any feelings for them one way or another is all. Not telling SC who they should be rivals with, Nebraska didn't think much of us at one time either. Utah is no different than a maryland or rutgers, I'm not the oldest here but in the top 10 percent and because we played them in the long ago past that should matter, come on that's a big stretch. Please know I'm not against this, it's just feels forced. You post lots of good stuff is why I asked you. Thanks for the reply
 
Suppose Montez finishes what he started in Eugene...will those quackheads hate us? There's enough history between both schools to happen.

I guess I haven't had enough exposure to Husky fans at their worst.
 
Jalapeno said:
Suppose Montez finishes what he started in Eugene...will those quackheads hate us? There's enough history between both schools to happen.

I guess I haven't had enough exposure to Husky fans at their worst.
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We hated them more in the early 00’s when Rick Neuheisel hosed us on his way out.
 
68buffs said:
I'm not saying that they aren't good. I just don't have any feelings for them one way or another is all. Not telling SC who they should be rivals with, ****braska didn't think much of us at one time either. Utah is no different than a maryland or rutgers, I'm not the oldest here but in the top 10 percent and because we played them in the long ago past that should matter, come on that's a big stretch. Please know I'm not against this, it's just feels forced. You post lots of good stuff is why I asked you. Thanks for the reply
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It's definitely forced. The thing is, CU didn't have a rival and that's a part of why Mac circled NU. A program needs a game to circle that is meaningful for it to look forward to every year. With NU, there were other factors that made them a great fit and it obviously worked.

But any other Pac-12 program as a "rival" would be a lot more forced than Utah. So I'm going to embrace it. At least we play every year at the end of the season, have some history and the border state thing.
 
I think that Allbuffs collectively has a lot of respect for Utah. They play hard, are well coached and have been consistently tough in Pac-12 play. I actually root for them in every game except when the play us.

USC in the other hand.....those guys suck!
 
Buffnik said:
It's definitely forced. The thing is, CU didn't have a rival and that's a part of why Mac circled NU. A program needs a game to circle that is meaningful for it to look forward to every year. With NU, there were other factors that made them a great fit and it obviously worked.

But any other Pac-12 program as a "rival" would be a lot more forced than Utah. So I'm going to embrace it. At least we play every year at the end of the season, have some history and the border state thing.
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I think that within the Pac -12 South the hate is strong with UCLA and ASU. I could see either of those becoming rivals sooner than Utah.
 
SBP said:
I think that Allbuffs collectively has a lot of respect for Utah. They play hard, are well coached and have been consistently tough in Pac-12 play. I actually root for them in every game except when the play us.

USC in the other hand.....those guys suck!
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Yeah I respect the Utes.

USC is a bunch of annoying elitist fratguy Californians. To be clear, I consider that last word to be the most insulting.
 
Buffnik said:
I think it's hilarious that folks look down on Utah.
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Utah has been SLIGHTLY better than us since joining the Pac 12. I'd say we've been about even, evidenced by how close most of the utah-cu games have been for the most part.

Neither side is jusitified in looking down on the other
 
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