The Seminole tribe embraces, educates, and gets revenue for the use of their name, so I am good with that. The Braves should pay a fee to all Georgia tribes to keep their name, and have educational efforts.started making a new thread and the auto-search found this already existed.
spurred by the Chiefs discussion in the NFL thread, what are the most offensive nicknames in major sports?
for me, #1 is the South Carolina Gamecocks. I understand the history of the name, and also note that it's referencing an illegal activity centered around animal abuse. I know PETA often launches a campaign against USC (and is generally mocked for doing so), but I'm surprised that the name doesn't generate more controversy.
I don't find the remaining NA derived names offensive, but I acknowledge that this isn't an area I appreciate very well. My highschool changed their name from the Indians to
I think the Golden State situation is analogous to the KC NFL one. 'Warriors' and 'Chiefs' can both be commonly understood as terms free from racial implication, but the history of that word use does focus on Native Americans.
- Florida State Seminoles
- Atlanta Braves (there's also a few minor league teams nicknamed 'Braves')
- Chicago Blackhawks
- Utah Utes
- Golden State Warriors
Last, I know there's been some complaints about pirate based names, e.g. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ECU Pirates.... Noting piracy is illegal, I don't feel those names carry anywhere near the same stigma as USC's as they lack the cruelty aspect.
any idea -- why does Utah always seem to get left out of this controversy?The Seminole tribe embraces, educates, and gets revenue for the use of their name, so I am good with that. The Braves should pay a fee to all Georgia tribes to keep their name, and have educational efforts.
started making a new thread and the auto-search found this already existed.
spurred by the Chiefs discussion in the NFL thread, what are the most offensive nicknames in major sports?
for me, #1 is the South Carolina Gamecocks. I understand the history of the name, and also note that it's referencing an illegal activity centered around animal abuse. I know PETA often launches a campaign against USC (and is generally mocked for doing so), but I'm surprised that the name doesn't generate more controversy.
I don't find the remaining NA derived names offensive, but I acknowledge that this isn't an area I appreciate very well. My highschool changed their name from the Indians to
I think the Golden State situation is analogous to the KC NFL one. 'Warriors' and 'Chiefs' can both be commonly understood as terms free from racial implication, but the history of that word use does focus on Native Americans.
- Florida State Seminoles
- Atlanta Braves (there's also a few minor league teams nicknamed 'Braves')
- Chicago Blackhawks
- Utah Utes
- Golden State Warriors
Last, I know there's been some complaints about pirate based names, e.g. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ECU Pirates.... Noting piracy is illegal, I don't feel those names carry anywhere near the same stigma as USC's as they lack the cruelty aspect.
any idea -- why does Utah always seem to get left out of this controversy?
The Seminole tribe embraces, educates, and gets revenue for the use of their name, so I am good with that. The Braves should pay a fee to all Georgia tribes to keep their name, and have educational efforts.
The Seminole Tribe has endorsed FSUs use.
TILUtes have permission of the Ute tribes.
I think the Chiefs need a rebrand. Arrowhead and the logo and the colors suck
This post offends me.Of all the ridiculous things to be offended by.
No one cares about Utahany idea -- why does Utah always seem to get left out of this controversy?
If punks like you would observe International Talk Like A Pirate Day, then maybe they wouldn't be controversial.Pirate names are controversial? WTAF?
Utah is very careful about how the name and imagery is used. None of the cartoonish characters, no presenting them as bloodthirsty, primitive savages, etc.Utah has a deal with the Ute tribes, and Florida State has a deal with the Seminole Nation, but it can be tenuous. The University of North Dakota had a deal with the Standing Rock Sioux and Spirit Lake Sioux for them to retain the 'Fighting Sioux' mascot, but the Standing Rock Sioux pulled out of the agreement and North Dakota had to change to like the Fighting Hawks or something like that.
It's completely possible that the Utes or Seminoles may change their minds in the future and pull their support. However, I would imagine their support comes with a price tag, so there's always that. I don't know what Utah does, but I imagine FSU spends a lot of money to make sure the Seminoles are happy with the agreement.
If punks like you would observe International Talk Like A Pirate Day, then maybe they wouldn't be controversial.
Surprised that PETA hasn't started a movement to object to the use of any animal names, real or fictional for team names or mascots.
Surprised that PETA hasn't started a movement to object to the use of any animal names, real or fictional for team names or mascots.
We can ignore them on that one as well.
Yeah, I've been saying sports are stupid for years.You know, this whole discussion in this thread and the other has kind of made me realize how weird mascots and nicknames actually are. I mean, I get the idea of the fans wanting to have some nickname to call their team, but think about it: a bunch of young people get together to play a game and they all decide, "hey, we're not just a random collection of humans who are good at this particular activity, let's also pretend we're animals, or other people, or natural phenomena!"
I know sports brings out all kinds of weird behavior in people, but the more I think about it, the more bizarre it seems.
Yeah, I've been saying sports are stupid for years.