Arrrg! It's drivin' me nuts!
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The Most Offensive Team Nicknames
- Thread starter greyslime
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agree. as I've aged, I feel more silly every time I hear myself refer to a team by their nickname. When I was 20, it seemed normal to say "Hokies, Packers, etc..." but now I feel increasingly ridiculous using what sounds like childish names.
of course, changing language to avoid mocking myself does open myself up to mockery from others. I think there's a balance to this that I haven't quite found yet.
For me it's usually a case of ease of use. If the context of the conversation allows for the use of "Denver" to refer to the local professional football team, that works, but a lot of times it's just easier to say "Broncos". I am also linguistically lazy, so I'll say "Pack" instead of "Packers" most of the time, lol.
Tommy Lasorda said that the reason American kids don't play baseball anymore and don't dominate the majors like they once did is because the adults got involved.
He said if you want kids to learn to play baseball give them a field, some bats, balls, and gloves, and make the adults stay away.
You might make that argument about a lot of sports. How many of the great soccer players come from places where they don't have the kind of organized youth soccer we do with traveling teams and every game with refs and parents screaming at the kids, coaches, and refs.
Instead they play for hours on a dirt lot with a couple of old boards making the goals.
Lasorda was an idiot.
Kids stopped playing baseball because 2 kids do something while everyone else stands around watching.
And, air conditioning.
Unless you are pooping.
Hopefully, not a spectator sport.
I agree with you to a large extent but I still think there is a lot of validity in what he said.
When you have kids playing baseball in a sandlot without the adults they aren't doing anywhere near as much standing and watching. The games goes much faster, they get many more at bats and many more opportunities to field.
Many kids have still left baseball and in fact informal or formal sports behind but the adults haven't helped the situation.
SeanMSan
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My daughter’s elementary school mascot is a trash pa…er…raccoon. Probably the second weakest mascot in the school district. A high school here in Omaha’s mascot is a bunny.
This is true.
The next step in the devolution of American sports is pay for play youth club sports. The VAST majority of kids burn before ever playing a HS sport, and in most sports, only the rich kids are playing.
I’ll agree kids need to play outside more, and adults have taken away the “freedom” of growing up. But it’s a silly Hollywood fantasy think the best players in sports play on dirt patches.
I think mascots are fine for kids, but I agree about the nickname part and it's largely a North American sports phenomenon.
What’s the matter with ”Blackhawks”?
You do realize that it's a native American tribe's name, right?
So, same issues as Seminoles or Utes.
And use NA symbology in their logos,
Also last place in an 8 team division,
But what's primarily wrong with them is their location in Illinois.
I do. And like the Seminoles and Utes, who allow the use of their tribe name because it’s not used disparagingly, unlike Redskins or “Indians”…again, what’s wrong with “Blackhawks”?
They are the silent helicopters of imperial oppression and I want no part of them!
I think this is one key distinction of NA orignated nicknames. Not that I make any claim which should or shouldn't offend anyone.
So, on the "safer" side, we have tribe names: Seminole, Ute
On the "more likely to offend" side, we have Indians and Redskins.
I'm not sure where that leaves Warriors and Chiefs. On a different scale than the above, I think. And I stick by yesterday's comments that the amount of racial association is driven by the context of symbols, chants, etc... more than the word itself.
Yeah, but they fly themselves, which is pretty cool.
This is true. We used to have a saying in Soccer as coaches to “let the game be the teacher”. If you have too many drills and dont leave time for scrimmage youre doing a huge dis service. About half my practice time was scrimmage. But coaches do continue to interfere. To keep my kids into creating some imaginative free play I would set up futsal games once a week. Small sided games of 5v5 or less is where the magic starts to happen
Thats already here and very well established as an industry depending on the sport.
When I coached youth basketball for a couple years, most of the practice was scrimmage. 1-on-1, 3-on-3 or full. Parents complained that it wasn't structured enough and I wasn't teaching. I tried to explain that the kids don't have the background we did at their age because their generation doesn't ever just meet up with a ball at the gym or playground for fun. Also, they weren't parents who played so they were impressed by inbounds plays and free throw percentage. I got them winning through fitness, swarming defense, and being able to beat a guy to break down a defense for a good shot (ideally at the rim). Parents ended up thinking I wasn't teaching them anything beyond having fun and playing hard while assuming their kids were more talented than they were since we were winning despite them not really being "coached."
don't bother googling, it's not that interesting of an origin story