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The rise of Texas A&M and fall of UT after realignment
- Thread starter Buffnik
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I live in a sea of Aggie. Seriously, 2/3rds of my team at work are Aggie. My boss is Aggie.
I find Aggie really hard to hate. They're just so .... Aggie. Yes, they can be annoying. But usually, it's a pretty harmless annoying. Like a dog that runs into you why it's chasing it's own tail.
Exactly. And while they are up right now, and have had success in the past, deep down, most of them have a humbleness that comes from having the rug repeatedly pulled out from under them. Now, UT fan is a whole other story...
You can't hate Charlie Brown when he finally gets to kick the football...
That's the problem, poor bastard is never gonna get to kick that ball.
77buff
Well-Known Member
A&M is one of the Top 10 wealthiest universities, they have tons of money. It's going to be hard for Texas to overtake them. Strong is a good coach, but Sumlin is alot better at recruiting.
Charlie Brown word association inevitably leads me to this (not sure how to imbed the Yahoo video).
https://screen.yahoo.com/weekend-old-school-days-000000985.html
BlackNGold
Club Member
And you don't think UT is wealthy. Last I checked their endowments way outpaced A&M ( $20 Billion to $9 Billion). It is equally slanted towards Texas when you compare AD revenues - Texas $165 Million and A&M at $93 Million. With those number I just don't buy your argument regarding the money being a differentiator between the programs. Both play big boy football.
Deleted member 807
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It's not just recruiting. Sumlin's job is also to take young talent out of high school and develop them into men.
Manzeil was a media circus that has now matriculated to the NFL. How many twitter pictures of JFF does it take for a parent to see that Sumlin might not be able to keep his players on a short leash?
More recently, charges of aggravated robbery by Golden and Claiborne have caused both to get the boot.
How much more cleaning up does Sumlin have? Can he keep his players out of trouble?
Manzeil was a media circus that has now matriculated to the NFL. How many twitter pictures of JFF does it take for a parent to see that Sumlin might not be able to keep his players on a short leash?
More recently, charges of aggravated robbery by Golden and Claiborne have caused both to get the boot.
How much more cleaning up does Sumlin have? Can he keep his players out of trouble?
It'll be UT and Oklahoma when the SEC expands to 16 teams. But UT might have to wait a long, long time for that... By then they will have given up their ****ty little longhorn network and they'll have to accept a 1/16 slice of SEC revenue instead of the 1/4 or 1/8 they had of Big12 Revenue. F them.
This. What he did at Louisville and at UF was no fluke. The article(s) try and count him out or make overall doom for UT. Nothing could be further from the truth as I would be somewhat shocked to see Strong fail badly at Texas. He's a very very good coach and he'll be winning at Texas eventually. Or UF.
A&M joining the SEC is a coup, no two ways about it. They have credibility now with recruits, both in state and in the SEC footprint, that allows their coaches to sell kids on the opportunity to play and possibly beat the #1 team in the country every year. Add in a game against a top 5 team and a top 10 team for good measure. And all of those probably in the regular season. UT, otoh, really any B12 team can't say the same because there will be only a couple of ranked teams in all of the B12 on any given season. The SEC is the creme de la creme of college football and they typically sport a few highly ranked teams each year.
I do not think anyone thinks Strong will "fail" at Texas. I think he will be hard-pressed to match his success at UF and Louisville though. Those Florida teams were absolutely stacked, probably the most talented team in the country. It all started with recruiting, with Urban Meyer setting the tone. That is what Strong needs to try and emulate at Texas. You guys are talking about player development, which sounds wonderful in theory, but very doubtful that alone gets Texas to the playoffs on a regular basis.
Think you are right.
UT is not likely to accept being an equal, even among what is seen as the best conference in college football. The ACC with their deal with ND has already shown that they are willing to "deal" to get the teams that will keep them in the public eye.
Even if the LHN eventually goes away Texas is going to want to have a First among equals relationship in their conference, the same thing that helped them kill two prior conferences but don't forget that each time a conference has crumbled around them they have come out of the deal unscratched.
Since Mack Brown is not a good coach than Stoops must not be one either.
I humbly disagree. No 'not a special coach' has ever accidentally assembled a cadre of premier coaches like Brown did AND simultaneously luck his way into multiple great recruiting classes and than had the mNC just fall in his lap.
Mack Brown was an excellent coach who simply came to the end of his rope. He's not the first guy to assemble an NC caliber staff only to have it raided later on. Bowden, Hayes, Stoops, Parcells, Sabin, all lost guys and saw their recruiting and other facets of greatness fall just enough to keep them from the top 5. Some them shook up their staffs later on, some did not and were fired. It's the nature of the business.
You shut yer mouth, boy! ND is the UT-lite! Get it straight yer mind, boy!
That's the response from Austin to the above quote - must remember that UT is second to no one, even if they're being insulted.
aik
Well-Known Member
Even the inferiority complexes are bigger in Texas!