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- Thread starter BuffWarHog
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YES!!! THANK YOU!
I sense this is a hot button issue for you.
liverflukes
Resident Bear
We should have left it as the PCC.
Instead, we let a bunch of non-Olympic sport having whiners join over the years. Now we have to change our conference name every few years.
:saythat:
Isn't CU only behind the 4 Cali schools for Olympic Sport national championships?
liverflukes
Resident Bear
Atta Buff! I didn't think there were any fans left here. Rep sent.
Maybe. I don't always fact check before I trash talk. I'm ready and willing to change my argument if you can dig up facts. However, the insults will remain.
| School | Team | Individual | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Men | Women | Total | Men | Women | Total | |
| Arizona | 8 | 11 | 17 | 62 | 84 | 146 |
| Arizona State | 11 | 12 | 23 | 61 | 43 | 104 |
| California | 26 | 6 | 32 | 135 | 62 | 197 |
| Colorado | 20 | 2 | 22 | 106 | 12 | 118 |
| Oregon | 14 | 12 | 26 | 78 | 24 | 103 |
| Oregon State | 3 | 0 | 3 | 32 | 7 | 39 |
| Stanford | 61 | 41 | 102 | 262 | 177 | 439 |
| UCLA | 72 | 39 | 111 | 162 | 100 | 262 |
| USC | 84 | 16 | 100 | 303 | 60 | 363 |
| Utah | 11 | 9 | 20 | 70 | 24 | 94 |
| Washington | 1 | 6 | 7 | 55 | 15 | 70 |
| Washington State | 2 | 0 | 2 | 80 | 6 | 86 |
| Conference total | 308 | 147 | 464 | 1406 | 614 | 2020 |
I was close. We're 6th in individual titles and 7th in team titles. This was through the 2012-13 year on the Pac-12 wiki page. So it wouldn't include CU's Men's XC national title last year or any of the other ones by the conference.
Too late - bear complimented me first.
Oregon's numbers are way, way off. The wikipedia editor must be a duck.
Here are current numbers:
Those are up to date, and taken from here: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/champs_records_book/Overall.pdf
In team championships nik was originally correct, Colorado is only behind the California schools, we're close enough to conceivably catch Cal, but Stanford, UCLA and USC are probably out of reach. ASU, and Oregon are right on our heals though.
In individual championships, Colorado is behind the California schools + Arizona.
Ski teams.
Ski, Fencing, and one other sport (cannot remember which) do not have a "men's team championship" or "women's team championship" they all compete and score for one team.
The individual titles are separated in competition though, so you have a men's slalom champion and women's slalom champion. But they aren't separated in the summary statistics. So, you have a "mixed individual champion," some of whom will be men that outperformed other men, and some will be women that outperformed other women.
The individual titles are separated in competition though, so you have a men's slalom champion and women's slalom champion. But they aren't separated in the summary statistics. So, you have a "mixed individual champion," some of whom will be men that outperformed other men, and some will be women that outperformed other women.
CU needs a fencing team.
Heard on the Hill: "Let's get hammered and go check out the epee finals against Notre Dame".
Heard in recruiting circles: "My son's buddy is deciding between fencing scolly offers from CU or Cleveland State..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_fencing_schools
Epee fencing, we touch all over.
Edit to add: more than one school on that list does fencing as women's only. Seems to me that it could provide some cheap Title IX compliance.
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I'm down with that. Main problem is travel. Air Force and Stanford are the only D1 program west of the Mississippi. Almost all are on the Atlantic coast. Unless it was endowed, it's a cost suck.
That's a problem with a lot of sports that CU might consider for Title IX. For field hockey, there are so few programs in the west that the NorPac Conference (includes Cal and Stanford) has Appalachian State as a member to get to enough teams.
The best adds if we're looking for Title IX sports are Rowing and Sand Volleyball.
Rowing is Pac-12 sponsored, participated in by Cal, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington and Washington State... and has 20 women's scholarships that can be recruited like many programs do... taking 20 honor roll all-state athletes from within the state and teaching them how to row. Throw in 3 for Sand Volleyball (which supports our VB program and is participated in by the Pac-12) and we've got a great AD sport expansion plan.
With the 23 from Rowing and Sand Volleyball, CU could add Men's Lacrosse (12.6 scholarships) and Men's Soccer (9.9) for a total of 22.5 men's scholarships and actually improve our Title IX compliance.
Soccer is probably the next sport add.
Our lacrosse team is good but there is a huge jump from the competition they see now to the d1 level.
Our lacrosse team is good but there is a huge jump from the competition they see now to the d1 level.