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Tim DeRuyter, Dave Doeren reportedly high on Colorado's coach list
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BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Mangino the Hutt = too much baggage. Ran off several o/l players while in Norman and was abusive to players in Lawrence.
Sorry, but I don't wanna see man mountain Mark in Boulder.
Sorry, but I don't wanna see man mountain Mark in Boulder.
BuffNut99
Club Member
Henderson HAS NO IDEA what he is talking about. He has no sources at all, except when Mangino's agent calls him up to say that Mangino called CU a few weeks ago.
I really hope Stitt is reaching out to guys "on the short list" - it honestly wouldn't surprise me if someone in the AD is kinda-sorta saying things to him like, "there are some good coaches out there, maybe you should reach out to X, Y, & Z." It is interesting that he was at the game Tuesday night...
Walter White
Member
That's way overblown. CU is not that unique and is certainly not toxic. CU is a turnaround job and doesn't have tons of admin support relative to some of the other top tier schools. Lots of schools fall into that category. If coaches like Anderson are turning down CU, then it's only because they think they can leverage their success into a "better" job, however they define "better". If they didn't think they had better options, they would take the CU job in a heartbeat. They're shootign for the best opportunity, just like schools are shooting for the coach. This happens all the time in every search at nearly every school.
drmike
Member
I surely don't mean to imply that I have a better candidate, it is just frustrating to cycle through coaches that are attempting cut their teeth in the bcs. I know, it is what it is. Bohn's talk gets me excited, then reality hits. The guys that I like are winners but are way more toxic than us so I won't bother mentioning them.
Finest
Well-Known Member
KU folks were impressed with his recruiting:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/aug/09/master-recruiter-niu-coach-doeren-lured-some-kus-b/
He was the recruiter for Montee Ball.
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BartonBuff
New Member
Most of these mid major coaches will have used JUCO's heavily as it is their best resource for upper level talent. So yes they will ave to adjust.
somebody needs to knock some school administrators around... thats what makes this job a non-starter for so many... no jc's!
CUFan
Welcome back
My understanding of the JC issue is the lack of credits transferring for JCs, primarily due to majors we don't provide. This change would have to come for all students, not just athletes. Dply could enlighten us (and probably already has somewhere on this site).
Do you think a "General Studies" type major would help? Seems like something like that would allow more credits to transfer.
CUFan
Welcome back
Defer to dply. Provided the only information I had, which I think is correct, but may not be.
That's pretty accurate IMO. If we want a JC transfer, we basically have to be working with them from the moment they first enroll at the JC, and guide them into the appropriate classes that will actually transfer here.
Maybe the only answer for this is to have some of our in-state JC's actually field football teams; I think the current policy is either that those credits (from in-state JC's) are guaranteed to transfer, or the ones that will transfer are already explicitly identified.
As someone that transferred into CU by way of Univ of Wisconsin and a MN JC, I can say for a fact that there are some of the core classes that transfer fairly easily (biology/chemistry/calculus/economics/...). But, when you start to get into the fringe areas (for me it was some of the english classes) then you have to fight a bit harder to get them accepted (usually a matter of sending a syllabubs or course description and listing the CU course you think it's a match to), and then there's the "JC-specific" courses and other classes that have no match to a course at CU that you have no shot at getting transferred.
If you're smart about it (taking general/core subjects & courses), there's no reason you can't get enough of your JC credits to transfer.
If you're smart about it (taking general/core subjects & courses), there's no reason you can't get enough of your JC credits to transfer.
That's true, hence my statement about us having to work with them from the moment they first enroll at a JC. It's not unsurprising that a lot of even moderately intelligent people have a hard time navigating the specifics on which classes will and won't transfer - bureaucracy isn't easy to navigate, and a lot of people need guides.
BartonBuff
New Member
I was curious, where is it that DeRuyter all has recruited. Off the top of my head he has been at schools great for the Colorado job for recruiting connections. Colorado (Air Force), Texas (A&M), Nevada and California (Fresno). With him being a defensive coach is a plus in my book also.
Now when you say BCS coach are you talking current BCS coordinators (Diaco, Wilcox), current BCS head coaches (Strong, Golden), or former BCS head coaches (Bellotti, Tedford, Sweater Vest)? I ask because, guys like Doeren, DeRuyter, and to some extent Andersen (made some BCS bowl appearances) are all head coaches with roots as BCS level coordinator positions. I consider these guys as not far removed BCS coordinators with some head coaching experience.
Also, other than the former head coaches, all these guys have 1-2 more football games to play this year they wont say anything publicly to rock the boat of their current teams. And i hope CU will honor that. Stretch your imaginations (really far) as to what the outrage on allbuffs if some school were trying to poach our HC or coordinator while the Buffs were still to play in the PAC12 championship and Bowl game.
By the reports from the DP, Buffchips radio and our beloved Allbuffs, the heads of CU administration has made a commitment to excellence in athletics and when the CFB season ends coachs will be more transparent in their true ambitions.
Henderson is ****, between midnight and 9:00am his report changes, just poor journalism
Buffenuf
massive tool
That's like saying, "Oooh! Look! There's some whole kernals of corn in that fresh, steaming cowpie!"
skycolorado
Member
wow, a bowl game, somehow you're drinking the kool-aid that we haven't ordered yet
LOL! Admittedly 6 games is a stretch, but I don't think 4 is a stretch. Hell, even Embree almost won 4 games. Not sure any of the other games were winnable this season, so yeah, maybe some Kool-Aid. :lol: